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Massive negative trade Balance

Started by Nosferatus, October 01, 2011, 01:40:25 PM

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Nosferatus

i also ntoiced a great way to gain a good extra share of gold as lord, stealing it from your knights share:

just send caravans to buy food somewhere where you know no food will be bought.
The gold is taken from the trade balance and added to you as bonds!

A really sneaky way to steal from your own knights without anyone knowing. ;)
Formerly playing the Nosferatus and Bhrantan Family.
Currently playing the Polytus Family in: Gotland, Madina, Astrum, Outer Tilog

Telrunya

When cancelling a buy offer in your region, you lose 10% or so from those filthy merchants (One day they will rule the world!) yeah.

Chenier

Quote from: Nosferatus on October 06, 2011, 08:17:07 PM
i also ntoiced a great way to gain a good extra share of gold as lord, stealing it from your knights share:

just send caravans to buy food somewhere where you know no food will be bought.
The gold is taken from the trade balance and added to you as bonds!

A really sneaky way to steal from your own knights without anyone knowing. ;)

Manual caravans take gold from your pockets, not the trade balance. And I assume that automatic caravans bring the gold back to the trade balance, not your pockets, but I've never bothered with that bugfest so I can't say.
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egamma

Quote from: Nosferatus on October 06, 2011, 08:17:07 PM
i also ntoiced a great way to gain a good extra share of gold as lord, stealing it from your knights share:

just send caravans to buy food somewhere where you know no food will be bought.
The gold is taken from the trade balance and added to you as bonds!

A really sneaky way to steal from your own knights without anyone knowing. ;)

Like Chenier says, this is incorrect. manual buys use gold, and return bonds--they are an effective way to get rid of your gold in-pocket if your men's morale drops to 0% and will rob you next turn. automatic sell offers affect your trade balance only.

De-Legro

Quote from: egamma on October 07, 2011, 09:12:02 PM
Like Chenier says, this is incorrect. manual buys use gold, and return bonds--they are an effective way to get rid of your gold in-pocket if your men's morale drops to 0% and will rob you next turn. automatic sell offers affect your trade balance only.

Sounds pretty close to an exploit, but then again very hard to prove you sent those caravans out just to save your gold. If people make use of that too often, it probably will result in having to be in your region to interact with caravans.
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Chenier

Quote from: De-Legro on October 08, 2011, 03:41:34 AM
Sounds pretty close to an exploit, but then again very hard to prove you sent those caravans out just to save your gold. If people make use of that too often, it probably will result in having to be in your region to interact with caravans.

yea... but I don't see that as being serious enough to warrant such a restriction. Only lords can do this, and only if they are stationnary, and morale dropping to 0% for a reason other than the unit not being paid is rather rare.

Plus you still lose your unit and honor.
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Carna

Erm, just wondering. Barca hasn't gotten tax in eight days now. The last tax we got was two days before the announced fix of this. I'm just wondering did the fix break something or should I start filing a bug report?

Thanks,

Finn.

Chenier

Quote from: Carna on October 09, 2011, 06:39:20 AM
Erm, just wondering. Barca hasn't gotten tax in eight days now. The last tax we got was two days before the announced fix of this. I'm just wondering did the fix break something or should I start filing a bug report?

Thanks,

Finn.

D'Hara just got what appeared to be a functionnal tax, following a late dysfunctionnal one from yesterday.
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JPierreD

d'Arricarrère Family: Torpius (All around Dwilight), Felicie (Riombara), Frederic (Riombara) and Luc (Eponllyn).

Chenier

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egamma

Quote from: Chénier on October 09, 2011, 06:52:39 AM
D'Hara just got what appeared to be a functionnal tax, following a late dysfunctionnal one from yesterday.

I'm rich! I'm rich!  ;D

(no, no bug, just clever estate/tax rate optimization plus a nice trade balance)

Thanks devs!

fodder

bloody hell, that's only 200 gold....
firefox

egamma

Quote from: fodder on October 09, 2011, 08:58:37 AM
bloody hell, that's only 200 gold....

Why do you think I want to be duke (or whatever) of the lighthouse?  :P

I made more than all the other lords of D'Hara, excluding dukes. Which, I know, is a big exclusion.

Chenier

Quote from: egamma on October 10, 2011, 06:48:10 PM
Why do you think I want to be duke (or whatever) of the lighthouse?  :P

I made more than all the other lords of D'Hara, excluding dukes. Which, I know, is a big exclusion.

You made about as much gold as me, the duke of Paisly, so....

Yea, the Lighthouse would be a bitchin' place to be lord of, come to think of it.
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Telrunya

But Paisly imported a lot. If that stops due too big reserves, her income should increase by a lot. And the Dukes got lucky the Ruler Share was reset to 0% :)