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Started by dustole, October 09, 2011, 09:56:35 PM

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Glaumring the Fox

Quote from: Chénier on March 08, 2013, 02:46:25 PM
This, and if you are the only one not making alliances, you shouldn't surprise yourself if, by the time you start a war, you get seriously outnumbered.

When Asylon forms an alliance we mean it that is the difference between us and the Moot.
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Indirik

Standard rebuttal #14.
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

Chenier

Allies of allies can't declare war. We've got an invulnerable shield of alliances!  Viva D'Hara! We are the alliance spiders! We are the dragons that hoard as many alliances as gold!
Dit donc camarade soleil / Ne trouves-tu ça pas plutôt con / De donner une journée pareil / À un patron

Glaumring the Fox

And turn and burn them like peanuts when the right time comes. Asylon doesnt work like that.
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Vellos

Quote from: Glaumring on March 08, 2013, 06:02:25 PM
And turn and burn them like peanuts when the right time comes. Asylon doesnt work like that.

Amusing then, that, D'hara, with lots of alliances, has managed to provide a diverse game experience with major components of politics, religion, trade, and war– multiple wars on multiple fronts.

When was the last time Asylon engaged in major geopolitics or fought a war?

Oh yeah. When Terran dragged you into it because you couldn't find anything fun to do yourself.

Alliances are catalysts of conflict, not preventatives of it. Read George Washington's farewell address from a descriptive rather than prescriptive stance.
"A neutral humanism is either a pedantic artifice or a prologue to the inhuman." - George Steiner

Glaumring the Fox

Being in the center of the map its only natural you feel the need for so many alliances. Your kingdom is as porous as swiss cheese since naval landings became a thing. Anyways I'll agree with you on some of your points.
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Chenier

Quote from: Vellos on March 08, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
Amusing then, that, D'hara, with lots of alliances, has managed to provide a diverse game experience with major components of politics, religion, trade, and war– multiple wars on multiple fronts.

When was the last time Asylon engaged in major geopolitics or fought a war?

Oh yeah. When Terran dragged you into it because you couldn't find anything fun to do yourself.

Alliances are catalysts of conflict, not preventatives of it. Read George Washington's farewell address from a descriptive rather than prescriptive stance.

Alliances brought WWI. Who else would have cared for what went on in Serbia otherwise? :P
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Glaumring the Fox

Quote from: Chénier on March 08, 2013, 08:35:07 PM
Alliances brought WWI. Who else would have cared for what went on in Serbia otherwise? :P

Further proof that massive entangled alliances are bad  ;D
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Feylonis

...what.

Alliances provide something to be broken. Multialliances give for dynamic conflict, which is basically a big no to everything you've ever said about the matter.

mikm

It is quite interesting when 2 allies of yours fight each other. You will have to chose who you help.

Glaumring the Fox

Quote from: Feylonis on March 08, 2013, 10:27:46 PM
...what.

Alliances provide something to be broken. Multialliances give for dynamic conflict, which is basically a big no to everything you've ever said about the matter.

Well I tend to look at alliances as friendships that should be cultivated. Coming from Feylonis who is hardly trustworthy and the likes of Chenier and Vellos no wonder no one should trust your word in an alliance. I look at alliances like England and Portugal, or Canada and the states. You guys look at them as mere stepping stones to a powergrab... And Im looked at like the bad guy here... :P
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Chenier

Quote from: Glaumring on March 08, 2013, 10:52:54 PM
Well I tend to look at alliances as friendships that should be cultivated. Coming from Feylonis who is hardly trustworthy and the likes of Chenier and Vellos no wonder no one should trust your word in an alliance. I look at alliances like England and Portugal, or Canada and the states. You guys look at them as mere stepping stones to a powergrab... And Im looked at like the bad guy here... :P

Since when were the two alliances you named not stepping stones to a powergrab...?
Dit donc camarade soleil / Ne trouves-tu ça pas plutôt con / De donner une journée pareil / À un patron

Glaumring the Fox

Well perhaps we have different definitions of how one does things. I prefer some quality, you prefer quantity.
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Anaris

Quote from: mikm on March 08, 2013, 10:43:30 PM
It is quite interesting when 2 allies of yours fight each other. You will have to chose who you help.

Quite explicitly, in fact, since your 2 allies cannot go to war (officially) as long as they are both allied with you.

So either one of them has to decide they like you less than they hate your other friend, or you have to decide which friend you like most, and drop relations with them.

Or you can just drop relations with both of them. :D
Timothy Collett

"The only thing you can't trade for your heart's desire...is your heart." "You are what you do.  Choose again, and change." "One of these days, someone's gonna plug you, and you're going to die saying, 'What did I say? What did I say?'"  ~ Miles Naismith Vorkosigan

Glaumring the Fox

Isn't BM fun? Playing with so many people with so many conflicting ideas.
We live lives in beautiful lies...