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Drag Wounded

Started by Marlboro, November 07, 2011, 08:06:51 PM

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Tom

Quote from: Marlboro on April 23, 2012, 11:08:33 PM
Bumping this one because the King of Thalmarkin has been laying around Winfael for almost a week after a major battle there. I hardly think it's possible to lose track of the king for a week, and I hardly think it's proper that they leave him in some dingy village to recover.

Nothing in the game speaks about "losing track". On the contrary, you can send him letters, you can see his unit, etc. - you know perfectly well where he is.

He's just too wounded to be moved. It's not like travel was especially comfortable in those times.

Marlboro

The bit about losing track was mostly De-Legro's response to the initial suggestion. While you bring up a good point, Tom, I just am not entirely sold. Someone suggested risking have the wounds worsen as a result of being transported to another region, which I think dovetails nicely with your observation. Some NPC flunky healer should not force our army to abandon our regent in a region bordering the blight, with a thousand screaming horrors just across that border.
When Thalmarkans walked through the Sint land, castles went up for sale.

Tom

Yeah, but then the system is not perfect. But there is a specific "recovering" state, which does allow for travel. So while he's still beyond that, he's not fit to travel. And the system simply wasn't built for the exceptional situations like Blight and Horrors.


JPierreD

Quote from: Marlboro on April 23, 2012, 11:53:11 PM
Someone suggested risking have the wounds worsen as a result of being transported to another region, which I think dovetails nicely with your observation.

1) Have the guy you hate wounded.
2) Drag him all over the place.
3) Profit!
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Velax

Quote from: JPierreD on April 24, 2012, 11:27:01 AM
1) Have the guy you hate wounded.
2) Drag him all over the place.
3) Profit!

1) Have the guy you hate wounded.
2) Drag him deeper into enemy territory.
3) Leave.
4) Profit!

Marlboro

Pretty sure that did happen in medieval times actually. :P

Anyways I thought of a mechanism where you can only drag him toward the nearest city and if you change your destination then the drag/transport order would be cancelled, so it's less of a strategic move to cart your favorite Chinese general around with the army following one of his many assassination attempts and more of a sincere method of getting him out of harm's way.

But that seems really, really complicated, and as Tom said the system as-is is fine for all but the most exceptional cases, so I don't really see this feature being introduced.
When Thalmarkans walked through the Sint land, castles went up for sale.

Eithad

Quote from: Velax on April 24, 2012, 12:44:18 PM
1) Have the guy you hate wounded.
2) Drag him deeper into enemy territory.
3) Leave.
4) Profit!

Why is that a bad thing, more intra realm conflict is always good. As long as the wounded guy knows who dragged him there, he can go and seek retribution.

Charles

If he ever stops getting dragged around.   ;D

Ketchum

Quote from: Charles on April 25, 2012, 05:46:33 AM
If he ever stops getting dragged around.   ;D
He is unconscious and he wont be able to stop you from dragging him to hell ;D

This Feature is good, open a lot of possibilities for RolePlaying and help to prevent those characters from holding positions for too long time, not giving chance to newbies and other players :)
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Indirik

Quote from: Ketchum on May 02, 2012, 02:12:25 AM... help to prevent those characters from holding positions for too long time, not giving chance to newbies and other players :)
Is the absolute, 100% wrong reason to add a feature like this.

This feature may or not be good, may or may not be needed. But a justification like this is a good reason to not add it.
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Charles

Quote from: Indirik on May 02, 2012, 02:26:04 AM
Is the absolute, 100% wrong reason to add a feature like this.
I agree completely.