Surrender duels as a training method

[pcw27]

Are duels to surrender a viable training method? Are there ways to minimize risk of injury?

[Anaris]

Are duels to surrender a viable training method? Are there ways to minimize risk of injury?

You can train with them.

There's always a chance of injury, including serious injury.

It is absolutely intentional that there is no risk-free, no-cost method of training your swordsmanship skill.

If you ever find a way to do that, please report it as a bug immediately, as it is not intended to exist.

[pcw27]

If I find a way to minimize or if I find a way which never results in a wound?

[Indirik]

Then it's a bug which should be reported.

[Zakilevo]

What? You can use duel to surrender to train?

[De-Legro]

What? You can use duel to surrender to train?

Dueling to surrender provide the chance for a skill gain. Using duels to train without a real context, well I certainly would think it is a SMA violation, and generally has been frowned upon in general. Duels are for honour.

[Penchant]

I know of a character that has declared duels on several others due to his honor feeling hurt by them just recently so it does seem that people are using it for its purpose. One has accepted but with time to train so people are accepting too. Also he didn't use the game mechanic yet but a letter of his wanting to duel.

[Zakilevo]

I know of a character that has declared duels on several others due to his honor feeling hurt by them.

lol well he is a sensitive one.

[Norrel]

lol well he is a sensitive one.

As he should be. In this world, your reputation is everything, and if you let people go after they slight you, you're worth nothing.

[De-Legro]

As he should be. In this world, your reputation is everything, and if you let people go after they slight you, you're worth nothing.

There is a balance here though. If you are too easily offended it reveals a lack of self confidence and calls your reputation into question. Sometimes it does you reputation more good to ignore or ridicule the insult. It is all very dependent on circumstance.

[pcw27]

Dueling to surrender provide the chance for a skill gain. Using duels to train without a real context, well I certainly would think it is a SMA violation, and generally has been frowned upon in general. Duels are for honour.

We were going to roleplay them as "sparring matches". It might not matter in the end as we'll probably just build and academy soon.

[Telrunya]

There are Training Matches for that purpose, at least on Testing.

[Tom]

We were going to roleplay them as "sparring matches".

You've got to be kidding me. Not this again.

I think it's time we remove duelling from the game. The ratio of abuse to intended use is 10:1 at the very least.

[GoldPanda]

Please keep death duels around, Tom. Surrender duels get abused, true, but people agreeing to death duels are generally serious about it. You can even make it more lethal if you want.

Maybe make it cost money to challenge someone to a duel? You'd have to hire an impartial judge, an arena, etc.

If you just want to RP sparring, have both nobles go to the academy and train together. Sparring equipment costs money and need frequent replacement.

[Indirik]

We were going to roleplay them as "sparring matches".

Absolutely not.

Duels are matters of honor between nobles used to resolve conflicts between them. They are not practice sessions, sparring matches, dueling leagues, training fights, light recreation, or whatever other rationalization you want to invent to jusify abusing game mechanics.

If you want to spar with another noble to test your skills, then use the special Training Match option. If you're on stable, then just cool our jets til it gets there.