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fodder

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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #30: April 21, 2012, 07:54:44 PM »
well.. they don't have to stay.... i suspect he'll shrink all estates.. (including mine) not just the new knight
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #31: April 21, 2012, 08:11:00 PM »
Quote from: Foundation on April 21, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
That is very unfair to the new noble, who perhaps chose your vacant estate because it was large.

It's like advertising "buy 1 get 2 free" and then after you buy 1 he's like "well, I gotta sell the other 2 to other people, so nothing for you".

>:(

Bah. I'll cut the lords share and balance it out. But it's easier to do that when estates are at 100% efficiency, which means I need a total of 3 knights.

Quote from: fodder on April 21, 2012, 07:54:44 PM
well.. they don't have to stay.... i suspect he'll shrink all estates.. (including mine) not just the new knight

I normally set all estates to the same size--better for efficiency.

But, out of "fairness", I've set the vacant estate to 25%, it won't change size.
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #32: April 21, 2012, 08:13:54 PM »
Quote from: fodder on April 21, 2012, 07:54:44 PM
well.. they don't have to stay.... i suspect he'll shrink all estates.. (including mine) not just the new knight
It's still rude. Not to mention a blatant "bait and switch". I'd be pretty pissed if a lord did that to me.
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #33: April 21, 2012, 08:54:45 PM »
New Knight: "What the...that 5% you just cut from my estate included my manor!"

Lord: "Well, you've still got the barn, haven't you?"
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #34: April 21, 2012, 08:56:57 PM »
Quote from: Indirik on April 21, 2012, 08:13:54 PM
It's still rude. Not to mention a blatant "bait and switch". I'd be pretty pissed if a lord did that to me.

Perhaps. but my lord/trader/banker is all about economic efficiency. Besides, I just gave my knight 150 gold a few days ago, so that takes the sting out of things, doesn't it?
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #35: April 21, 2012, 08:57:52 PM »
Quote from: egamma on April 21, 2012, 08:56:57 PM
Besides, I just gave my knight 150 gold a few days ago, so that takes the sting out of things, doesn't it?
No.

If you don't want someone to have a 25% estate, then don't dangle it out for them to bite.
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #36: April 21, 2012, 09:11:38 PM »
ah.. wrong island...  no wonder i couldn't remember getting a new neighbour XD
anyway...  the lord's screen has the following "warning"....

"Changing the size of assigned estates, especially reducing them without agreement or a very good reason is often considered ignoble and may make the knights unhappy, so consider your actions carefully."

perhaps a knight's screen should show something similar? as a bit of a nudge..
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« Reply #37: April 21, 2012, 10:29:03 PM »
Quote from: Indirik on April 21, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
No.

If you don't want someone to have a 25% estate, then don't dangle it out for them to bite.

I do want my knights to have a 25% estate. Ideally I would have 4 estates at 25%, because that provides almost 100% efficiency. The knight in question had a 50% estate for about a day--if he had any objections to me resizing it to 33%, then he could simply have found another one. I've increased it to 41% and made the vacant one 25%.

An estate is not just about taxes. My previous knight I appointed marshal of the army I had just created. This one I sent 150 gold to. As long as he has enough gold to field the unit he wants to, it doesn't make a whole lot of difference.
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #38: April 21, 2012, 11:20:28 PM »
Quote from: egamma on April 21, 2012, 10:29:03 PM
The knight in question had a 50% estate for about a day--if he had any objections to me resizing it to 33%, then he could simply have found another one. I've increased it to 41% and made the vacant one 25%.

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Why are you even arguing about this? What you've just described bears no resemblance at all to what we were joking/talking about.
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #39: April 22, 2012, 05:33:45 PM »
Hmm... Lords can resize estates anytime they want? Do knights get a message about this? If not, I'm going to have to start checking my estate size after a while.
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #40: April 22, 2012, 05:35:07 PM »
Yes and yes.
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #41: April 23, 2012, 02:08:39 AM »
Quote from: Indirik on April 21, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
No.

If you don't want someone to have a 25% estate, then don't dangle it out for them to bite.

Indeed. Give him a big estate, and then tax the hell out of it. That's what I do for better tax efficiency. XD
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #42: April 23, 2012, 06:29:57 AM »
Protests against the realm and civil unrest are causing serious trouble. The peasants are seriously questioning our rule. On the plus side, it improved their morale to express themselves. 1 gold are reported missing from tax collector offices after the unrest.
Many people are complaining about the high taxes.

Hmm... Am I squeezing peasants too much? lol
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #43: April 23, 2012, 09:55:43 AM »
well... depends... there should be a line telling you about taxes...
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Re: Tax rate
« Reply #44: April 25, 2012, 01:27:55 AM »
Quote from: Chénier on April 23, 2012, 02:08:39 AM
Indeed. Give him a big estate, and then tax the hell out of it. That's what I do for better tax efficiency. XD
The best part is his knight's are still rich.
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