Tax rate

[fodder]

well.. they don't have to stay.... i suspect he'll shrink all estates.. (including mine) not just the new knight

[egamma]

That is very unfair to the new noble, who perhaps chose your vacant estate because it was large.

It's like advertising "buy 1 get 2 free" and then after you buy 1 he's like "well, I gotta sell the other 2 to other people, so nothing for you".

>:(

Bah. I'll cut the lords share and balance it out. But it's easier to do that when estates are at 100% efficiency, which means I need a total of 3 knights.

well.. they don't have to stay.... i suspect he'll shrink all estates.. (including mine) not just the new knight

I normally set all estates to the same size--better for efficiency.

But, out of "fairness", I've set the vacant estate to 25%, it won't change size.

[Indirik]

well.. they don't have to stay.... i suspect he'll shrink all estates.. (including mine) not just the new knight

It's still rude. Not to mention a blatant "bait and switch". I'd be pretty pissed if a lord did that to me.

[Velax]

New Knight: "What the...that 5% you just cut from my estate included my manor!"

Lord: "Well, you've still got the barn, haven't you?"

[egamma]

It's still rude. Not to mention a blatant "bait and switch". I'd be pretty pissed if a lord did that to me.

Perhaps. but my lord/trader/banker is all about economic efficiency. Besides, I just gave my knight 150 gold a few days ago, so that takes the sting out of things, doesn't it?

[Indirik]

Besides, I just gave my knight 150 gold a few days ago, so that takes the sting out of things, doesn't it?

No.

If you don't want someone to have a 25% estate, then don't dangle it out for them to bite.

[fodder]

ah.. wrong island...  no wonder i couldn't remember getting a new neighbour XD
anyway...  the lord's screen has the following "warning"....

"Changing the size of assigned estates, especially reducing them without agreement or a very good reason is often considered ignoble and may make the knights unhappy, so consider your actions carefully."

perhaps a knight's screen should show something similar? as a bit of a nudge..

[egamma]

No.

If you don't want someone to have a 25% estate, then don't dangle it out for them to bite.

I do want my knights to have a 25% estate. Ideally I would have 4 estates at 25%, because that provides almost 100% efficiency. The knight in question had a 50% estate for about a day--if he had any objections to me resizing it to 33%, then he could simply have found another one. I've increased it to 41% and made the vacant one 25%.

An estate is not just about taxes. My previous knight I appointed marshal of the army I had just created. This one I sent 150 gold to. As long as he has enough gold to field the unit he wants to, it doesn't make a whole lot of difference.

[Indirik]

The knight in question had a 50% estate for about a day--if he had any objections to me resizing it to 33%, then he could simply have found another one. I've increased it to 41% and made the vacant one 25%.

...

Why are you even arguing about this? What you've just described bears no resemblance at all to what we were joking/talking about.

[Adriddae]

Hmm... Lords can resize estates anytime they want? Do knights get a message about this? If not, I'm going to have to start checking my estate size after a while.

[Indirik]

Yes and yes.

[Chenier]

No.

If you don't want someone to have a 25% estate, then don't dangle it out for them to bite.

Indeed. Give him a big estate, and then tax the hell out of it. That's what I do for better tax efficiency. XD

[Zakilevo]

Protests against the realm and civil unrest are causing serious trouble. The peasants are seriously questioning our rule. On the plus side, it improved their morale to express themselves. 1 gold are reported missing from tax collector offices after the unrest.
Many people are complaining about the high taxes.

Hmm... Am I squeezing peasants too much? lol

[fodder]

well... depends... there should be a line telling you about taxes...

[Penchant]

Indeed. Give him a big estate, and then tax the hell out of it. That's what I do for better tax efficiency. XD

The best part is his knight's are still rich.