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Started by Foundation, April 27, 2012, 10:36:58 PM

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Foundation

Who buys food at more than 10 gold per 100 bushels, and why?
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Zakilevo

Quote from: Foundation on April 27, 2012, 10:36:58 PM
Who buys food at more than 10 gold per 100 bushels, and why?

Many people. Because no one posts food at that price.

Indirik

20, because I'm lazy.
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Vellos

And yet the market data indicates that prevailing prices are so much higher.

This is why we need transactional data.
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Indirik

"transactional data"

Sounds way too modern.

Maybe stats for food sales should be regional, and not continent-wide. Then restrict them to traders, and make them spend hours to accumulate the data. You spend your hours, and learn about what happens in your area.
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Penchant

Quote from: Indirik on April 28, 2012, 04:27:37 AM
"transactional data"

Sounds way too modern.

Maybe stats for food sales should be regional, and not continent-wide. Then restrict them to traders, and make them spend hours to accumulate the data. You spend your hours, and learn about what happens in your area.
Sounds like an interesting feature that could definently be useful. If someone is selling at 30 gold per 100 bushels but everyone else locally has been selling at 10 gold per 100 bushels you know they are ripping you off. If this was restricted to traders it could force lord-trader interaction for a better knowledge of the local market.
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Vellos

Quote from: Indirik on April 28, 2012, 04:27:37 AM
"transactional data"

Sounds way too modern.

Maybe stats for food sales should be regional, and not continent-wide. Then restrict them to traders, and make them spend hours to accumulate the data. You spend your hours, and learn about what happens in your area.

Then call it "Market price" or "Sale price." Basically, the data currently provided are simply irrelevant; they reflect literally nothing. Continental average actual sale prices would be useful.
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fodder

but what is food worth? that is, in respect of how much income a rural should get vs a city/etc.. after food transaction
firefox

D`Este

Food is worth 20 gold per 100 bushels, else it cost too much time to change prices ;P

Solari

#9
Food's value per 100b can be derived two ways.  First, as whatever the prevailing market price for food currently is.  Second, as 10g per 100b, which covers the transactional costs alone.  There are more than 275,000 bushels of food on Dwilight right now.  Surplus.  That means a bunch of knuckleheads are paying for food that has no market value.  Why?  As a rural subsidy program?

vonGenf

Quote from: Solari on April 28, 2012, 12:34:39 PM
That means a bunch of knuckleheads are paying for food that has no market value.  Why?  As a rural subsidy program?

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Vellos

Quote from: Solari on April 28, 2012, 12:34:39 PM
There are more than 275,000 bushels of food on Dwilight right now.  Surplus. 


Errr..... no?
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Eithad

Quote from: Vellos on April 28, 2012, 09:31:20 AM
Then call it "Market price" or "Sale price." Basically, the data currently provided are simply irrelevant; they reflect literally nothing. Continental average actual sale prices would be useful.

But local prices are whats relevant, whats the point of knowing theres cheap food to be hand somewhere when you can't reach it.

Vellos

Quote from: Eithad on April 29, 2012, 12:17:57 AM
But local prices are whats relevant, whats the point of knowing theres cheap food to be hand somewhere when you can't reach it.

They're seven days delayed anyways.

The data's purpose isn't to give you intel. It's to satisfy the curiosity of players, and provide them a general framework for understanding the balance of the game.
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Chenier

Quote from: Solari on April 28, 2012, 12:34:39 PM
Food's value per 100b can be derived two ways.  First, as whatever the prevailing market price for food currently is.  Second, as 10g per 100b, which covers the transactional costs alone.  There are more than 275,000 bushels of food on Dwilight right now.  Surplus.  That means a bunch of knuckleheads are paying for food that has no market value.  Why?  As a rural subsidy program?

Subsidy to rural regions, or rural realms.

Trade is not only economical, it's also very political.
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