Fontan VS Westmoor/Perdan/caligus war

[T Strike]

Why complain about a 3 v 1 war when your realm can pull up a 25k army out of mid-air... Just go ahead and pull a 50k army and destroy all of them at the same time... It's definitly possiby for Fontan considering they pull out 25k armies... However, I believe Westmoor will just get Oberndorf and Commonyr as new regions and Caligus will get the rest.... Maybe a new duchy, eh?

[Zakilevo]

Why complain about a 3 v 1 war when your realm can pull up a 25k army out of mid-air... Just go ahead and pull a 50k army and destroy all of them at the same time... It's definitly possiby for Fontan considering they pull out 25k armies... However, I believe Westmoor will just get Oberndorf and Commonyr as new regions and Caligus will get the rest.... Maybe a new duchy, eh?

Nope, Sorry. Westmoor will just go back to their original borders. Nivemus will get Oberndorf and Caligus will get the rest.

[Uzamaki]

Nivemus should get Oberndorf... If you want to talk history, the region belongs to either Old Rancagua, Sirion, or Fontan. Jor has been trying to say Westmoor has a claim but we all know it's BS.  :P

Also, to go back to Sirion vs Fontan, several factors went into making Sirion a powerhouse that could withstand 5 realms. First was geography. Second, stupid tactics(seriously? You are going to attack Trinbar again and not go up through Avamar? How predictable... :P). Third the fact they were heavily bolstered by war-lusty nobles and former Old Rancaguan nobles. Lastly, because coordinating five realms across nearly the entire continent is a difficult thing to manage at best, and even harder when two of the stronger ones are so far South they can only come every other week.

That, in a nutshell, is how Sirion withstood the onslaught and later used that momentum to turn the tide of the war. Other factors were of course involved, but those were the big ones.

[Feylonis]

Plus, like, I think Westmoor had more rebellions than actual battles, heh.

[GoldPanda]

Why complain about a 3 v 1 war when your realm can pull up a 25k army out of mid-air... Just go ahead and pull a 50k army and destroy all of them at the same time... It's definitly possiby for Fontan considering they pull out 25k armies...

There is no need to be mean, dude.

[Iltaran]

Plus, like, I think Westmoor had more rebellions than actual battles, heh.

Its been three years since a Monarch stepped down entirely voluntarily.

[Feylonis]

...that's how long Westmoor has existed, afaik D:

[Anaris]

...that's how long Westmoor has existed, afaik D:

Westmoor's first Queen, Evangeline Uceek, stepped down voluntarily.

[Iltaran]

The last completely voluntary abdication was Merewyn (our third ruler), who stepped down on 9 May 2009, almost exactly three years ago. Since then we've had two Monarchs overthrown in rebellion (Micna and Scheckyos), two protested out of office (Jor during his first reign and Flaylen), and two who abdicated while the Lords were grumbling about them (Corwin and Maedros/I).

I'll admit, the last two are streching the definition of involuntary a bit, but it sounds better that way  ;D

[T Strike]

I think Oligarch had control of Oberndorf at one point. Till Fontan became almighty and took it.

[Uzamaki]

I think Oligarch had control of Oberndorf at one point. Till Fontan became almighty and took it.

Oligarch did have control of it a long time ago, I believe. But then they were smashed and Sirion actually took command of the region for a long time with the infamous Duke Doc Primus ruling Oligarch. Then the Great War eventually started and Oberndorf switched hands from Sirion, Old Rancagua, and Fontan for a long time until the Sultanate was created and Old Rancagua, being attacked on two fronts, lost control of their Southern regions. After that, Oberndorf was either rogue or Fontanese.

And, either way, It doesn't matter. Oberndorf has more ties to Nivemus(some Old Rancaguan ties) and Sirion(former owner) than Oligarch has had recently and certainly more than Westmoor, which the only tie to the realm Oligarch is the city.

That being said, I think Westmoor will end up with Commonyr. The rest will probably go to Caligus one way or another.

[Draco Tanos]

Excluding the Oligarchian nobles we had at founding, including one former Oligarch leader who later became Queen of Westmoor and until recently was Countess of Greatbridge?

And the time Westmoor held Oberndorf and Commonyr under its flag?

The idea of Westmoor started as a restoration of Oligarch.  Those were the very words used by Eva Uceek/Kylie.  We have as much right to claim lineage from Oligarch as Nivemus has for OR.

[Ketchum]

Why complain about a 3 v 1 war when your realm can pull up a 25k army out of mid-air... Just go ahead and pull a 50k army and destroy all of them at the same time... It's definitly possiby for Fontan considering they pull out 25k armies... However, I believe Westmoor will just get Oberndorf and Commonyr as new regions and Caligus will get the rest.... Maybe a new duchy, eh?

Who say we are pulling rabbit out of the hat? I thought I already hint many of you, if you destroy Fontan mobile strength, they are as good as dead. Good luck in trying at that time :P
Caligus will found a new colony realm together with Westmoor. That what my oracle told me ;)
Hmm, now where should Fontan nobles seek refugee in? Obsidian island perhaps, they need nobles ::)

There is no need to be mean, dude.

Thanks. Sometime we all need to be reminded :)

Peace everyone!

[Uzamaki]

Excluding the Oligarchian nobles we had at founding, including one former Oligarch leader who later became Queen of Westmoor and until recently was Countess of Greatbridge?

And the time Westmoor held Oberndorf and Commonyr under its flag?

The idea of Westmoor started as a restoration of Oligarch.  Those were the very words used by Eva Uceek/Kylie.  We have as much right to claim lineage from Oligarch as Nivemus has for OR.

How many of those people do you still have?

[Iltaran]

Two (Khorn and Merewyn).

Mind you, if anyone asks me, its silly to pretend that who-ruled-what years ago will have anything to do with the end result. "The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must"