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Newer Kabrinskia vs. Terran Thread

Started by Vellos, May 10, 2012, 11:40:50 PM

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Zakilevo

It will be an interesting war no doubt. Hopefully this war will last until the end of the year.

Vellos

Except that, if the war were about Astroism, Terran would drop out of it in about 30 seconds.

Terran's leaders aren't interested in fighting about the future of Astroism; they're interested in fighting to ensure our continuing political position.
"A neutral humanism is either a pedantic artifice or a prologue to the inhuman." - George Steiner

Glaumring the Fox

Agreed, its good fun all the same.
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Indirik

Quote from: Vellos on May 24, 2012, 04:24:04 AMExcept that, if the war were about Astroism, Terran would drop out of it in about 30 seconds.

Terran's leaders aren't interested in fighting about the future of Astroism; they're interested in fighting to ensure our continuing political position.
... I never thought Hireshmont II would be so naive ...

Of course this is about the future of Sanguis Astroism. Do you really think so many theocracies, and two other realms led by SA followers could not be a deciding factor in the future of the religion?
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

Vellos

Quote from: Indirik on May 24, 2012, 04:56:03 AM
... I never thought Hireshmont II would be so naive ...

Of course this is about the future of Sanguis Astroism. Do you really think so many theocracies, and two other realms led by SA followers could not be a deciding factor in the future of the religion?

Why yes, yes he does. Hireshmont doesn't much care about the future of the religion. He doesn't even know who the fundies/moderates are, nor what may distinguish them. He's quite pro-Mathurin, is friends with Labell, wishes Allison would just go and die already, and desperately wants Astrum to like him: moderate, or fundamentalist?
"A neutral humanism is either a pedantic artifice or a prologue to the inhuman." - George Steiner

Perth

It's is becoming a very juicy, fun war once again for sure.




(once the daimons left, that is!)  ;)
"A tale is but half told when only one person tells it." - The Saga of Grettir the Strong
- Current: Kemen (D'hara) - Past: Kerwin (Eston), Kale (Phantaria, Terran, Melodia)

Brant

QuoteWhy yes, yes he does. Hireshmont doesn't much care about the future of the religion. He doesn't even know who the fundies/moderates are, nor what may distinguish them. He's quite pro-Mathurin, is friends with Labell, wishes Allison would just go and die already, and desperately wants Astrum to like him: moderate, or fundamentalist?

Dalian.  :P

dustole

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Geronus

Quote from: Vellos on May 24, 2012, 05:15:06 AM
Why yes, yes he does. Hireshmont doesn't much care about the future of the religion. He doesn't even know who the fundies/moderates are, nor what may distinguish them. He's quite pro-Mathurin, is friends with Labell, wishes Allison would just go and die already, and desperately wants Astrum to like him: moderate, or fundamentalist?

Squishy and moderate  8)

egamma

Quote from: Vellos on May 24, 2012, 05:15:06 AM
Why yes, yes he does. Hireshmont doesn't much care about the future of the religion. He doesn't even know who the fundies/moderates are, nor what may distinguish them. He's quite pro-Mathurin, is friends with Labell, wishes Allison would just go and die already, and desperately wants Astrum to like him: moderate, or fundamentalist?

Pragmatic.

Perth

Quote from: Glaumring on May 24, 2012, 04:00:38 AM
Terran/Asylon= moderate Astroism

Astrum/Kabrinskia= fundamentalist Astroism

Quote from: Vellos on May 24, 2012, 05:15:06 AM
moderate, or fundamentalist?


I was always under the impression that there were three positions in SA that you could be: Fundamentalist, Moderate, and Allison.
"A tale is but half told when only one person tells it." - The Saga of Grettir the Strong
- Current: Kemen (D'hara) - Past: Kerwin (Eston), Kale (Phantaria, Terran, Melodia)

Meneldur

IMO fundamentalist and moderate are rather tricky terms when it comes to SA.

There are those who want war against non-theocracies, but at the same favor a very "liberal" approach to what individual astroists can believe.

There are those who want to enforce a strict obedience to the Prophet within the Church, but at the same time are rather peaceful when it comes to non-theocracies.

And there are the pragmatists, whose piety depends on the advantage to their realm.

Asylon is definitely pragmatic as far as I have seen.
Hireshmont, from what I know, seems pragmatic as well however Label is very much in the second category, so Terran as a whole is a bit of a mix.
Allison is of course the first category.
Astrum is kind of mixture of all three.

When we're attacked as with Caerwyn and the Saxons everyone does manage to unite though, so these divisions are mostly only for arguments in-between crusades.

Anaris

Quote from: Meneldur on May 24, 2012, 03:01:00 PM
IMO fundamentalist and moderate are rather tricky terms when it comes to SA.

There are those who want war against non-theocracies, but at the same favor a very "liberal" approach to what individual astroists can believe.

There are those who want to enforce a strict obedience to the Prophet within the Church, but at the same time are rather peaceful when it comes to non-theocracies.

So, you've got two axes: fundamentalism vs liberalism, and evangelism vs tolerance.
Timothy Collett

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Vellos

ooo.... can we make an "Astroist Compass" test?
"A neutral humanism is either a pedantic artifice or a prologue to the inhuman." - George Steiner

Uzamaki

This war will be fun...

Any bets on the winner yet?  ;) ;D