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Started by Ehndras, July 13, 2012, 08:20:45 PM

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Lanyon

Quote from: Poliorketes on July 21, 2012, 09:35:14 AM
In Medieval times, the Kings were kings by the divine will! They were Kings because It was God will!...  8)

To say no to religion, is to say you don't have any rights to be king! You are only an oversized armed peasant! ... mmm... maybe in the Mendicant matter this is the most accurate description!  ;D

This makes me question if you've read anything Medicant has posted on the matter.

Perth

Quote from: Poliorketes on July 21, 2012, 09:35:14 AM
In Medieval times, the Kings were kings by the divine will! They were Kings because It was God will!...  8)

The concept of "Divine Right" is really more of a 17th century concept, not Medieval.
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Vellos

Quote from: Perth on July 21, 2012, 04:45:41 PM
The concept of "Divine Right" is really more of a 17th century concept, not Medieval.

Perth beat me to it.

Getting more technical, Medieval rulers ruled by raw force, but governed by church approval. That is, they became king because they had the biggest army: but they led a nation by staying on good terms with the church. Obviously, BM isn't exactly like that; it's not much like that at all (SA isn't even close to that level of independent power), but the principle remains.
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T Strike

Quote from: Perth on July 21, 2012, 04:45:41 PM
The concept of "Divine Right" is really more of a 17th century concept, not Medieval.

OR if you believe in aliens that came in the past you could say... Aliens give you the right to rule...
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Indirik

...which is pretty much the same thing.
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Ehndras

If you want to be historically correct, it would in fact be more akin to 400 AD dating back to the distant BCs what with Pharaoh god-kings, Xerces the utter douche, the Emperors of Rome being praised as graced by the gods, and other such examples. ;-)
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Glaumring the Fox

Serious medieval atmoshpere... Just ignore the 3 red stars in the sky and dont try to add your own ideas... Fair?
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Penchant

Quote from: Glaumring on July 22, 2012, 12:04:53 AM
Serious medieval atmoshpere... Just ignore the 3 red stars in the sky and dont try to add your own ideas... Fair?
Who ever said that SA's bloodstars are red? They are red in the pictures to symbolize the whole blood thing with the bloodstars but no one said the stars were actually red.
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Norrel

Quote from: Poliorketes on July 21, 2012, 09:35:14 AM
In Medieval times, the Kings were kings by the divine will! They were Kings because It was God will!...  8)

To say no to religion, is to say you don't have any rights to be king! You are only an oversized armed peasant! ... mmm... maybe in the Mendicant matter this is the most accurate description!  ;D

In the early medieval period, might = right was largely the rule of the day. It was only towards the end when the nobility began to be very broad and the peasantry more powerful that the divine right bull!@#$ was invented.

That's not to say that this isn't stupid. These guys don't want religion in their game because it distracts from the singular focus of conquering everything in sight single-mindedly. Not having religion is a load of horse!@#$ - worship your god-king or whatever, but your characters can't just reject the notion of superstition because "I like my King".
"it was never wise for a ruler to eschew the trappings of power, for power itself flows in no small measure from such trappings."
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Glaumring the Fox

Quote from: Penchant on July 22, 2012, 12:18:33 AM
Who ever said that SA's bloodstars are red? They are red in the pictures to symbolize the whole blood thing with the bloodstars but no one said the stars were actually red.

Oh please stop you are about to make yourself look very foolish.
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Velax

Quote from: Glaumring on July 22, 2012, 03:31:25 AM
Oh please stop you are about to make yourself look very foolish.

And Glaumring knows what he's talking about when it comes to looking foolish, so I'd take his advice. :P

Indirik

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Glaumring the Fox

We live lives in beautiful lies...

T Strike

What if the Blood Stars were actually blue.. You know like.. Sirius...
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vonGenf

Quote from: T Strike on July 22, 2012, 06:48:17 PM
What if the Blood Stars were actually blue.. You know like.. Sirius...

Of course they are. They're blood colored. We're all blue-blooded, unless you're one of those filthy peasants.
After all it's a roleplaying game.