Oh, three small points:
It is worth noting that Athena's assertion of belief in a higher power came after my message saying Athena had IC options.
She then did reply ICly, and when I made another IC rebuttal, another player set into what I regard as OOC bullying (to which I have not responded). The whole OOC exchange is below:
Out-of-Character from Elroy Anderbliss (1 day, 4 hours ago)
Message sent to: Arturius Entreri, Athena Leather, Cyrilos Vellos, Kerwin Perth
So player of the Vellos family,
I think it would be useful to let us know why you, at least I am assuming it was you since only 4 people were involved in the discussion, reported Athena for vulgarity from a very benign appearing message that the other 3 did not say they felt was inappropriate. Help make this a learning opportunity, as right now the reason for reporting was not clear.
Derek Anderson
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Out-of-Character from Cyrilos Vellos (21 hours, 39 minutes ago)
Message sent to: Arturius Entreri, Athena Leather, Elroy Anderbliss, Kerwin Perth
This is a long-running dispute regarding the vulgarity feature.
I regard the vulgarity feature as being essentially an IC tool whereby the standards of nobility are upheld. In Cyrilos' view, Athena has breached those standards, namely by professing what he believes to be atheism.
If she has it narrowed down who did it, she can ICly retaliate easily enough. Vulgarity is not only a question of naughty words. It's ICly about maintaining standards of nobility, and also OOCly about policing the atmosphere of the game. Tom's stance on atheism is well known (and frankly can be extended to include other ahistorical ideas like modern pluralism).
If you are upset by it, you may open a Magistrate case. However, if the message was in fact found to be vulgar and you did lose honor, then I would suggest that at least somebody must have thought it was vulgar.
Lyman Stone
Out-of-Character from Athena Leather (20 hours, 27 minutes ago)
Message sent to: Arturius Entreri, Cyrilos Vellos, Elroy Anderbliss, Kerwin Perth
So Lyman, As I understand it you believe in using this OOC feature IC for character usage but when it comes down to it you hide behind the OOC so your character does not need to admit to anything. Isnt that OOC abuse?
cathy mack
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Out-of-Character from Arturius Entreri (20 hours, 20 minutes ago)
Message sent to: Athena Leather, Cyrilos Vellos, Elroy Anderbliss, Kerwin Perth
I think what happened here is you did not get the response you wanted and got angry IC and OOC. I personally think that this was abuse of an OOC policing tool intended to keep the game relatively clean and free of offensive issues. Quite honestly I am embarrassed to be in the same realm as someone that would go to this type of extent to get what they want. However, just MY opinion.
I feel that this is abuse of game mechanics and a form of power gaming that is strictly prohibited in the social contract. Using OOC tools to get what they want IC. But what do I know.
I am now going to begin putting certain people on ignore and hopefully this will not have any in game repercussions for me, but if it does its been fun. This is the last time I will speak on this matter in this message group on this matter OOC and IC.
Ernest Williams
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Out-of-Character from Elroy Anderbliss (10 hours, 29 minutes ago)
Message sent to: Arturius Entreri, Athena Leather, Cyrilos Vellos, Kerwin Perth
Agreed...total abuse. That line of thinking will open up vulgarity complaints on so many situations...in the time of the crusades, I sure the word Christian or.Muslim was used in a vulgar sense. So to abuse tom's statement on atheism is a bad precident...especially for a magistrate. I would open a case, but with Vellos a magistrate and the high horse riding members like indirik and Chenier on the magistrate group, I am sure it would just be a waste of my time.
Derek Anderson
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Out-of-Character from Kerwin Perth (10 hours, 22 minutes ago)
Message sent to: Arturius Entreri, Athena Leather, Cyrilos Vellos, Elroy Anderbliss
I won't have an OOC flame war within the game.
If anyone thinks some kind of abuse has been done there are more than enough ways to make your grievances heard: Tom, the Titans, the Magistrates. Otherwise, let's cut the OOC chatter in game and just play the game.
Thank you.
Chase Barney
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Out-of-Character from Elroy Anderbliss (10 hours ago)
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You're right...I'm done. Still a little miffed, but done.
Derek Anderson
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(emphasis mine)
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Second, I am unsure why Chenier was asked to recuse, as he is not involved in the case in any way.
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Third, I would also note that referring to something as abuse which confers no advantage whatsoever on the abuser, but in fact stigmatizes them for even using it (as the vulgarity feature does; if you ever confess to using it, people freak out, no matter your reasons), and which, at the extreme upper limit, takes a small H/P hit to the "victim".... that's gotta be one of the lowest thresholds of abuse we've ever set. There is literally no gain for the abuser.