REJECTED: Royal Granary and Royal Treasury

[vonGenf]

No, I want a way to move food with the collaboration of the entire realm, minus one duke.

You can move the food of an entire realm, minus one region!

That probably sounds sarcastic, but really it isn't. You can actually do that.

[Foundation]

Appointing lords is one of the duke's primary powers.

Food is a lord's primary resource.

You see the imbalance if we arbitrarily add power to solve a single side of the problem?

[egamma]

Off-topic posts about Kindara have been removed here:

http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php?topic=2861.0

[House Talratheon]

I'm with Tom on this,

If a Lord is hording food and say the Duke needs it he should send a request to force the Lord to give the food up the chain of command i.e. the King.
the King makes a choice and instructs the Judge to act accordingly, the Judge can then collaborate with the Banker to see just how much food he is
hording then make a judgement to fine him heavily or banish him.

Eventually the Lord gives in or gets banished and loses the region in which case the Duke then appoints a new Lord.

Problem solved, the perfect government doesn't exist it involves "working together" with government colleagues to accomplish goals.

Relying on giving a single position power to solve major realm issues won't help anything, except as a easy button that provides no need for IC social interaction.

[fodder]

here's an odd thought.

bankers should be allowed to make "buy offers" for any regions (or i guess only those with no lords). - strictly buy, not sell.
he's not taking food away from anyone and if he's paying out of his pockets... who cares?
(apart from pressure to have rich bastard being banker or banker expected to pay out of his own pockets)

[Foundation]

Interesting thought.  Seems balanced.

[De-Legro]

here's an odd thought.

bankers should be allowed to make "buy offers" for any regions (or i guess only those with no lords). - strictly buy, not sell.
he's not taking food away from anyone and if he's paying out of his pockets... who cares?

You think I'm going to let that fool banker use my Granaries for free?

[Tom]

It's an interesting thought.

But why not just send gold to the lord and have him put up the buy offer? What problem are you trying to solve?

[fodder]

mostly.. it's newly TO'ed regions, where lords are elected.

or where there's a vacuum... no lord, no steward. something to tie things over.. and not a permanent solution.

[Velax]

Or where the Margrave isn't doing his job and causing his city to starve.

[Indirik]

bankers should be allowed to make "buy offers" for any regions (or i guess only those with no lords). - strictly buy, not sell

Sure, if there's no lord. If there is a lord, then it's the lord's job to do it. If the lord isn't doing their job, then too bad for them.

[egamma]

If the banker is also a lord/steward/trader, wouldn't this allow him to "give" food to a starving region? He creates the buy offer, and then fulfills it, at a loss.

[Azerax]

Allow the banker to build marketplaces in any region (where they are currently allowed, though, to be honest, any area with even a tiny population has some sort of market, ie farmers market, etc).  The construction would come out of the bankers pocket.

[fodder]

each region has a building limit though...

[egamma]

Allow the banker to build marketplaces in any region (where they are currently allowed, though, to be honest, any area with even a tiny population has some sort of market, ie farmers market, etc).  The construction would come out of the bankers pocket.

The region is the lord's, not the banker. Only the banker should have that authority.