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IMPLEMENTED: Food deteoriation in the marketplace.

Started by Thunthorn, July 25, 2012, 06:38:35 PM

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Quote from: Tom on July 25, 2012, 09:13:18 PM
Because granaries cost gold to buy and should provide some benefit.

But it really isn't that much more. Just enough that the market place is not a good place to store food that you don't actually intend to sell.

I agree, though sell orders are also not guaranteed food you'll get back.  Either way is fine if the difference is minute.
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Bael

Quote from: Ehndras on July 25, 2012, 09:36:50 PM
50/100? On Dwilight?!

And here I was selling food for 25 or 30 per, no wonder it disappeared so damn fast.

I believe that is the average, or slightly above average price. But it is currently winter, and when your city is starving...

Penchant

Quote from: Bael on July 25, 2012, 10:00:11 PM
I believe that is the average, or slightly above average price. But it is currently winter, and when your city is starving...
From what I have heard 50/100 to anyone is average right now because of the extended winter and lots of places starving or getting close but what was regular before that was about 30 with some at 35 and a few at 25/100.
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Tom

Quote from: egamma on July 25, 2012, 09:45:18 PM
won't this make it even harder for traders to match buy/sell orders?

It won't have any effect on brokering because the rot is applied when the offer expires, not while it sits in the marketplace.

Penchant

Quote from: Tom on July 25, 2012, 10:21:35 PM
It won't have any effect on brokering because the rot is applied when the offer expires, not while it sits in the marketplace.
I still think there will be an effect because that just makes the region lords not want to post until they have a buyer so they no they won't lose extra food. And if they know they have a buyer then they can just accept the buy offer, not post a sell offer. One way it could work for the trader is the trader says there is a buy offer in range of him but not the lord so if the lord posts, the trader will broker the deal but the issue is most the time traders don't have the region lords as contacts if its outside of the trader's realm.
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Ehndras

They lose food anyway. Realistically and mechanically, grain is exposed to rot regardless of whether its in a granary, in a barn, in a cart/caravan, or anywhere else. Grain will rot - period.
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Penchant

Well before I continue arguing about it, could a dev say what the percentage of rot is per day in the market?
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fodder

Quote from: Ehndras on July 25, 2012, 09:36:50 PM
50/100? On Dwilight?!

And here I was selling food for 25 or 30 per, no wonder it disappeared so damn fast.

it's seasonal... prices will go up in winter when everyone is starving.
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Psyche

Quote from: Penchant on July 25, 2012, 10:41:26 PM
I still think there will be an effect because that just makes the region lords not want to post until they have a buyer so they no they won't lose extra food. And if they know they have a buyer then they can just accept the buy offer, not post a sell offer. One way it could work for the trader is the trader says there is a buy offer in range of him but not the lord so if the lord posts, the trader will broker the deal but the issue is most the time traders don't have the region lords as contacts if its outside of the trader's realm.

Maybe tweak things so traders can contact lords/stewards within their trade distance?  If you can reach their granaries, why can't you reach them?

Penchant

Quote from: Psyche on July 26, 2012, 01:04:38 AM
Maybe tweak things so traders can contact lords/stewards within their trade distance?  If you can reach their granaries, why can't you reach them?
I like it but from what I have heard about the message system it isn't going happen.
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Tom

I'm pretty sure the food rot is balanced now. There are several other factors including capacity of the granaries and a small "rot-free" base amount that should make sure that rot is not a factor that you need to consider in whether or not putting food on the market.

Tom

Quote from: Penchant on July 26, 2012, 12:09:18 AM
Well before I continue arguing about it, could a dev say what the percentage of rot is per day in the market?

As I said: Slightly more than in the granary, slightly less than outside (i.e. when you've exceeded your granary storage capacity).