How do I trade?

[Azerax]

I'm hoping I'm just confused, or drunk, or both.  I know how to broker deals, but the button has vanished for me ever since I became a region lord.  I can select the matching buy and sell order, it tells me it's balanced, but the button is gone to do it.  To move food to a city in need I had to buy the food for my region then trade it to that region.

Is this how it works?

Thanks,
Scott

[Indirik]

You cannot broker a deal that includes one of your own Buy/Sell offers. That's probably where you're running into a problem.

[Foundation]

Are you still a trader?

[Azerax]

Yes I am still a trader.  I also noticed that I can't see a sell offer that is 323 miles away, but my range is 626 miles. (I can see the offer in the banker report)  It's for another region inside the same realm so I should be able to see it.

I did have a buy offer when I first went into the market, but I have removed it and the broker button still isn't there. (i logged out and back in after removing my offer)

[Foundation]

Trade distance is still half of what it says except on Dwilight.

[Indirik]

I did have a buy offer when I first went into the market, but I have removed it and the broker button still isn't there. (i logged out and back in after removing my offer)

You should be able to have offers posted, you just can't include them in the brokering deal.

To make sure this is really a bug:
1) You have both Buy and Sell orders, none of which are yours.
2) You have matched Buy quantities with Sell quantities.
3) You have actually checked all the little boxes next to the appropriate offers.
4) The resulting deal is not at a loss. You don't have to make a profit, but it can't be a loss.

If you have met all four of those, and the option to broker the deal still does not appear, then you probably have a bug.

[Azerax]

You should be able to have offers posted, you just can't include them in the brokering deal.

To make sure this is really a bug:
1) You have both Buy and Sell orders, none of which are yours.
2) You have matched Buy quantities with Sell quantities.
3) You have actually checked all the little boxes next to the appropriate offers.
4) The resulting deal is not at a loss. You don't have to make a profit, but it can't be a loss.

If you have met all four of those, and the option to broker the deal still does not appear, then you probably have a bug.

Ah ha, there it is, though if I choose to take a loss it shouldn't matter (not a biggie I can work around it).

Thanks for the helping me sort that out!

[fodder]

if you want a loss... and you are the lord, just trade direct (buy then sell or vice versa)

[pcw27]

Another ruler and I agreed to trade food over a very great distance. Its significantly longer then the highest distance possible to a trader.

Will we need to find intermediary realms to move the food along or is there a way to trade directly. I heard that if you travel to a region you can always buy food from it if it is selling or sell food to it if it is buying. Is this true?

[vonGenf]

If you are a Region Lord, you can always buy food from the marketplace you are currently in and this food goes to your own region.

[fodder]

works for steward too. .... keyword is... marketplace.

[Tom]

Correct. As a region lord, your trade radius is around your current location and all trades go to/from your own region, no matter how far away it is. I play a steward character somewhere on Dwilight and recently took a world tour (seriously, crossed the inner ocean twice, once at the northern and once at the southern tip). I could've traded with every region I passed through, with the food coming from (I was selling) from "my" region, many hundreds of miles away.

[Gustav Kuriga]

Correct. As a region lord, your trade radius is around your current location and all trades go to/from your own region, no matter how far away it is. I play a steward character somewhere on Dwilight and recently took a world tour (seriously, crossed the inner ocean twice, once at the northern and once at the southern tip). I could've traded with every region I passed through, with the food coming from (I was selling) from "my" region, many hundreds of miles away.

And since the buy order is originating from your region, if you're over 400 miles away from your region and not a trader, you can't see it, right? Meaning you can only post sell and accept the other orders in a foreign realm (practically, if over 400 miles away).

[vonGenf]

And since the buy order is originating from your region, if you're over 400 miles away from your region and not a trader, you can't see it, right? Meaning you can only post sell and accept the other orders in a foreign realm (practically, if over 400 miles away).

That's not how it works. If a sell offer is posted in the marketplace you are in, you can accept it, period, and conversely if you want to sell and a buy offer is posted. You don't need two offers to coexist.

[Gustav Kuriga]

That's not how it works. If a sell offer is posted in the marketplace you are in, you can accept it, period, and conversely if you want to sell and a buy offer is posted. You don't need two offers to coexist.

That's not what I was saying. I was saying that if I posted a buy order in a foreign city over 400 miles from my region, they still wouldn't be able to see it because the buy order originates from the region you are lord or steward of. ((has tried this, so I know how it works effectively, if not technically))

I can still accept their buy and sell orders, yes.