"Elves"?

[Draco Tanos]

I've been wondering, which character(s) are ACTUALLY grandfathered in as elves, and which are simply humans who hacked off parts of their ears to make them pointy?  Is there any actual record? 

[vonGenf]

Is there any actual record?

The short answer is "no". I'll leave the long answer to others who may have a strong opinion about it.  ;)

[Perth]

I think there's a strong "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" when it comes to the whole Elves of Sirion deal...

[De-Legro]

I think there's a strong "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" when it comes to the whole Elves of Sirion deal...

He is referring to the original ruling and asking if any characters remain that could legitimately be covered by that clause. Don't think he is trying to reopen the whole debate about the validity of the newer elf generations.

[Draco Tanos]

He is referring to the original ruling and asking if any characters remain that could legitimately be covered by that clause. Don't think he is trying to reopen the whole debate about the validity of the newer elf generations.

This.

Well, at the very least when was the ruling issued and were there any specifics (had to be created/born in Sirion rather than immigrated to, etc)?  Could always do the legwork on my own with that.

[De-Legro]

This.

Well, at the very least when was the ruling issued and were there any specifics (had to be created/born in Sirion rather than immigrated to, etc)?  Could always do the legwork on my own with that.

Not sure when it was issued, before 2008 I think. My understanding was it covered any family in Sirion at the time.

[Anaris]

I believe it was issued some time in the 2001-2002 timeframe...

[loren]

Yes it was very early in the history of the game.  It's why my family's stance on the whole thing is that people are lying about their heritage.

[Zakilevo]

Someone in Sirion said people are lying about their heritage and people were pissed off...

I would avoid bringing that up in game to avoid waves of protest letters.

Oh well it isn't like it is detrimental to the game.

[loren]

Ooo a hornet's nest to kick =)

[Zakilevo]

Ooo a hornet's nest to kick =)

Indeed...

[Draco Tanos]

I believe it was issued some time in the 2001-2002 timeframe...

I can't seem to find a single account in Sirion that even has characters dating back to that time... :|

[loren]

Circle Tezokian now Ecthelion.  He's been there that long, almost positive (3644 days in realm).  High Guard another character of that same era was in Rancagua which was the second realm to ever be utterly destroyed.

The next closest is Alexander Acies Dux Ducis who created in early 2003.

The problem with the really really old stuff is that there isn't a family history entry for it since it didn't even exist =)  Look for the creation of my first characters Gregor, Lelnor, Boeth, and Norel (not the reborn Norel, but the first King of Oligarch and Perdan (pre restart).

Heck anything to do with Hasland isn't even my family history and that was my favorite time in the game.

[Anaris]

Records indicate Circle was created in late 2002.

In fact, the character will be 10 years old in exactly 9 days. Someone might want to let his player know; them's bragging rights, right there!

[loren]

Don't happen to have Gregor's actual creation date in the DB do we =)