Unopened Borders

[Bael]

Unopened Borders Warning   (1 hour, 20 minutes ago)
The realm to which this region belongs, Greater Aenilia, has not signed an Open Borders treaty with your realm. If the new treaty system was active, you would have been captured.
You have not been captured. This is only a warning to increase awareness of the new system, and its effects.


When it says "you would have been captured", does it mean automatically captured and shunted off to jail? I'm talking about an adventurer here.

[Bedwyr]

Unopened Borders Warning   (1 hour, 20 minutes ago)
The realm to which this region belongs, Greater Aenilia, has not signed an Open Borders treaty with your realm. If the new treaty system was active, you would have been captured.
You have not been captured. This is only a warning to increase awareness of the new system, and its effects.


When it says "you would have captured", does it mean automatically captured and shunted off to jail? I'm talking about an adventurer here.

There is an elevated chance of being captured, and the border guards would try to capture you.  Success is not automatic, but it there is a relatively high chance of it happening.

[Bael]

Ok thanks  :D

[Anaris]

There is an elevated chance of being captured, and the border guards would try to capture you.  Success is not automatic, but it there is a relatively high chance of it happening.

If you get this message, that means that if the Treaty System were yet live, you would have been captured.  It should give you an idea of the frequency.

However, adventurers are not supposed to be captured just from unopened borders. It's supposed to require closed borders.  So this is a bug, and one I thought I'd fixed, too.

[Bael]

However, adventurers are not supposed to be captured just from unopened borders. It's supposed to require closed borders.  So this is a bug, and one I thought I'd fixed, too.

After seeing the above, I did another check (just to make sure that I didn't miss the starting of any wars ;)) and I came up with this:

I am in allied lands.

My character is a peon of Principality of Zonasa, and I am in Greater Aenilia lands. These two realms are allied.

[Anaris]

After seeing the above, I did another check (just to make sure that I didn't miss the starting of any wars ;)) and I came up with this:

I am in allied lands.

My character is a peon of Principality of Zonasa, and I am in Greater Aenilia lands. These two realms are allied.

...Under the present, diplomacy-based system.  Not under the new treaty system.

[Bael]

...Under the present, diplomacy-based system.  Not under the new treaty system.

Hmm, I see. I was under the impression that being allied meant certain minimum treaties would be in place? Like open borders?

[Anaris]

Hmm, I see. I was under the impression that being allied meant certain minimum treaties would be in place? Like open borders?

a) The situation under the present, diplomacy-based system, is totally, utterly, and completely independent of the situation under the new treaty system.  You can be at war with someone under the current system, and have an Alliance treaty signed with them. Treaties currently have no game effect.
b) Once the new diplomacy system is active, it will be perfectly possible to have an Alliance treaty signed with a realm and also have a Closed Borders declaration signed against them.
c) It is intended that certain combinations be mutually exclusive; however, they are not yet.

[Indirik]

My advy on Dwilight, aligned to Libero Empire, occasionally gets that while wandering around in Morek Empire.

[Aldwoni]

Captured!   (4 days, 14 hours ago)
You have been spotted and captured by enemy patrols. This would not have happened under the new treaty system due to your Diplomatic Immunity.

[songqu88@gmail.com]

Heh, yeah that got changed a while back. See the dlist for reference. There was something about an enemy diplomat sitting without unit in a capital scouting everything, and since the no diplomats treaty didn't work, this was not a good thing.

[Bael]

Ok, thanks for explaining everything :)