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[Lefanis]

Looking forward to the Rio news a while from now...  8)

[Azerax]

any news?

[Telrunya]

Basically, that is the news:

Guillaume Chénier has been elected as Supreme Chancellor of Enweil. While Enweil and Riombara always have had a troubled history, Guillaume Chénier is a known opposer of Riombara. His actions as Ruler of IVF, and his supposed Agreement with the Daimons to see Riombara destroyed, have not been forgotten by the Nobility of Riombara. At the same time, a takeover has been started by Riombara in the City of Iato. While this action was not approved by the Realm Government, it has also reignited the territorial disagreements between Riombara and Enweil, as Riombara claims the lands of IVF for the recreation of said Realm. With the ownership of the unblighted lands already an issue as well, these latest provocations have put the relations between both Realms under considerable strain already. Whether this will restart the old feud between Enweil and Riombara and usher in the first War on Beluaterra after the Fifth Invasion or these issues can be solved through diplomacy remains to be unseen. All that is sure is that the Election of Guillaume Chénier haas caused uncertain times on the Continent.

[Chenier]

Basically, that is the news:

Guillaume Chénier has been elected as Supreme Chancellor of Enweil. While Enweil and Riombara always have had a troubled history, Guillaume Chénier is a known opposer of Riombara. His actions as Ruler of IVF, and his supposed Agreement with the Daimons to see Riombara destroyed, have not been forgotten by the Nobility of Riombara. At the same time, a takeover has been started by Riombara in the City of Iato. While this action was not approved by the Realm Government, it has also reignited the territorial disagreements between Riombara and Enweil, as Riombara claims the lands of IVF for the recreation of said Realm. With the ownership of the unblighted lands already an issue as well, these latest provocations have put the relations between both Realms under considerable strain already. Whether this will restart the old feud between Enweil and Riombara and usher in the first War on Beluaterra after the Fifth Invasion or these issues can be solved through diplomacy remains to be unseen. All that is sure is that the Election of Guillaume Chénier have caused uncertain times on the Continent.

They hate Guillaume for what he did with IVF, and yet, they want to remake IVF. Man, those bugs that gave Marec all of that power he was never supposed to have sure did change the course of politics on BT.

[Telrunya]

Riombara doesn't blame IVF for the actions of Chenier, conveniently ;D

[Chenier]

Riombara doesn't blame IVF for the actions of Chenier, conveniently ;D

As if somehow the two are distinguishable. :P

IVF was founded upon the Creed of the Cossacks, which all lords and government members had to swear by. One of the tenants of the Creed was giving one's life for fellow Enweili (Enweil and Fronen, for example). I don't really see how joining a hostile realm and making threats to Enweil with it are compatible with the Creed.

Sure, we could always make them a new home. But calling them the Imperskoe Veisko iz Fheuv'na makes little sense. Besides, IVF had nothing but enemies, everywhere. Why would Riombara want to start a colony that a bunch of northerners would want to destroy just because of its name?

[Lorgan]

It's important to make a distinction between IVF-ers that joined Rio and fought the daimons and IVF-ers that joined Enweil and sat the invasion out.

[Chenier]

It's important to make a distinction between IVF-ers that joined Rio and fought the daimons and IVF-ers that joined Enweil and sat the invasion out.

We spent the whole invasion fighting daimons (and undead/monsters). Maybe 3 of these people wanted to continue fighting, but forgive everyone else for being a little annoyed at how Riombara kept insulting and provoking them for all of the invasion, and for feeling generally attached to where they came from.

Besides, from my count there are 3 ex-Fheuv'n nobles in Riombara. And Iato has a population of 3. Do you seriously think you can form a realm there...?

[Telrunya]

That's for Riombara to figure out :) They promised to rebuilt IVF to the Nobles that joined them, they intend to uphold their promise.

[Anaris]

We spent the whole invasion fighting daimons (and undead/monsters). Maybe 3 of these people wanted to continue fighting, but forgive everyone else for being a little annoyed at how Riombara kept insulting and provoking them for all of the invasion, and for feeling generally attached to where they came from.

I Heard It Differently™ ;D

Besides, from my count there are 3 ex-Fheuv'n nobles in Riombara. And Iato has a population of 3. Do you seriously think you can form a realm there...?

Since when has Riombara been one to let practicality get in the way of doing what we felt was right?

[Chenier]

That's for Riombara to figure out :) They promised to rebuilt IVF to the Nobles that joined them, they intend to uphold their promise.

Enweil could always help Riombara fulfill that promise. ;)

The city doesn't even like Riombara! 3 pop city with 3 nobles, starvation, constant rogue spawns, and low sympathy doesn't spell "success" to me.

I Heard It Differently™ ;D

If the traitors deny having been the moles in some big whack-a-mole game, where the daimons would return to crush us whenever we would finally recover, then they are outright liars. :P

[Lefanis]

The city doesn't even like Riombara! 3 pop city with 3 nobles, starvation, constant rogue spawns, and low sympathy doesn't spell "success" to me.

Think of it this way... The diplomats raising loyalty don't have to work very hard...

[Chenier]

Think of it this way... The diplomats raising loyalty don't have to work very hard...

Diplomats are more helpful before the takeover than after. And Ugntu isn't a diplomat. He's gonna feed the city, raise sympathy, raise morale, raise control, and fend off the rogues all on his own?

Nah, I don't see that happening. If Riombara doesn't want to give them a colony in their own lands, such as Eylmon, they are going to need Enweil's help to keep up that promise of theirs.

[Telrunya]

The TO is not approved by Riombara, this is a rogue action. Riombara as a whole can easily set up IVF :)

[Lorgan]

If Riombara doesn't want to give them a colony in their own lands, such as Eylmon, they are going to need Enweil's help to keep up that promise of theirs.

I can think of quite a few scenarios in which Riombara doesn't need Enweil's help. :)