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The Marrocidenian war

Started by Lanyon, October 07, 2012, 10:31:07 PM

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Lanyon

Since this war hasn't had a topic, well at least before now, and has been hijacking various other threads, I decided to make this thread for all your war predictions, senseless rambling, Crazy glaumringing, and Aurvandil hate.

First up, What do y'all think will happen now that Aurvandil has taken paisly and D'Hara no longer has any geographic connection to the Vienorsmoot?

fodder

it just gained an infinitely wide connection called sea travel. albeit not actually live yet.
firefox

egamma

Well, Mendicant told Gornak that he was going to create a new realm in Paisly, and destroy D'Hara as well. So expect both of those things, although probably not in that order.

NoblesseChevaleresque

Aurvandil and D'Hara haven't been at war now for a while.

Penchant

Quote from: NoblesseChevaleresque on October 08, 2012, 01:12:31 AM
Aurvandil and D'Hara haven't been at war now for a while.
Yeah, I have kinda been wondering why it's assumed D'hara will die when we are at a cease fire currently, though Aurvandil is known for declaring war on the fly, IMO.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
― G.K. Chesterton

NoblesseChevaleresque

It amuses Mendicant to be obliging to D'Hara when they ask nicely.

Lanyon

From what I heard ingame it's possible we'll leave D'Hara alive. Terran on the other hand...prepare the funerals pyres boys ;)

Perth

"A tale is but half told when only one person tells it." - The Saga of Grettir the Strong
- Current: Kemen (D'hara) - Past: Kerwin (Eston), Kale (Phantaria, Terran, Melodia)

Perth

Quote from: Glaumring on October 08, 2012, 02:04:23 PM
Terran on the other hand should have stuck with Asylon instead of throwing us under the bus.

Oh chrissakes get off your soap box already.

Quote from: Glaumring on October 08, 2012, 02:04:23 PM
The two of us could have fought off both the Astroists and Aurvandiil.

Yeeeeaaahhhhh... pass the doobie, brotha man!
"A tale is but half told when only one person tells it." - The Saga of Grettir the Strong
- Current: Kemen (D'hara) - Past: Kerwin (Eston), Kale (Phantaria, Terran, Melodia)

NoblesseChevaleresque

Quote from: Lanyon on October 08, 2012, 05:29:12 AM
From what I heard ingame it's possible we'll leave D'Hara alive. Terran on the other hand...prepare the funerals pyres boys ;)

Mendicant rather likes D'Hara. The summary of his talks with Gornak were demands/threats that D'Hara accept peace, food and aid (Since D'Hara was starving quite hideously by this point and were attacked by the Lurian's) and to stop dying or Aurvandil would just camp in D'Hara's cities to try and force them to sign a peace treaty.

Quote from: Perth on October 08, 2012, 07:52:46 AM
I hate Aurvandil. More than anything ever.

Yes, we know. It's all you ever seem to go on about on the Dwilight section.

Vellos

Honestly, I don't want Terran to stop fighting until we're able to whip some discipline into our army. Terran needs to fight a real war, even if we lose, just so we can reprogram our army from "routine monster clearing missions" to "real fighting force." We'll see if we can accomplish that....
"A neutral humanism is either a pedantic artifice or a prologue to the inhuman." - George Steiner

NoblesseChevaleresque

Quote from: Vellos on October 08, 2012, 07:32:06 PM
Honestly, I don't want Terran to stop fighting until we're able to whip some discipline into our army. Terran needs to fight a real war, even if we lose, just so we can reprogram our army from "routine monster clearing missions" to "real fighting force." We'll see if we can accomplish that....

Wouldn't that have been more preferable with Kabrinskia? As you had fairly similar army size, which would empathise the importance of strategy, unit organisation and personal discipline as key and integral to winning each battle. Unless Aurvandil is better due to the "higher danger factor" since Aurvandil's armies don't mess around.

Vellos

Quote from: NoblesseChevaleresque on October 08, 2012, 07:38:30 PM
Wouldn't that have been more preferable with Kabrinskia? As you had fairly similar army size, which would empathise the importance of strategy, unit organisation and personal discipline as key and integral to winning each battle. Unless Aurvandil is better due to the "higher danger factor" since Aurvandil's armies don't mess around.

Except Terran had no reason to fight Kabrinskia after the peace terms they got. Terran has lots of reasons to fight Aurvandil– first and foremost, the occupation of Paisly, Paisland, Maeotis, Evanburg, Kydonia, Gallaecia, and Celtiberia.
"A neutral humanism is either a pedantic artifice or a prologue to the inhuman." - George Steiner

NoblesseChevaleresque

Quote from: Vellos on October 08, 2012, 07:42:05 PM
Except Terran had no reason to fight Kabrinskia after the peace terms they got. Terran has lots of reasons to fight Aurvandil– first and foremost, the occupation of Paisly, Paisland, Maeotis, Evanburg, Kydonia, Gallaecia, and Celtiberia.

Oh well Aurvandil won't be keeping Paisly for much longer, which we only took as a reaction to Terranese territorial advance into the fortified position of Paisland. We can't let Terran hold a Motte and Bailey on the bottleneck border, especially if Terran does start bringing down the northerners, it would give you scope to campaign into Aurvandil with relative safety against Aurvandilan counter attack.

Also, Terran scarcely had a reason to fight Aurvandil considering the peace terms we were working out with Barca, which put everything to Barca's favour and largely left the terms to their choosing.

Perth

Quote from: NoblesseChevaleresque on October 08, 2012, 07:51:42 PM
Oh well Aurvandil won't be keeping Paisly for much longer, which we only took as a reaction to Terranese territorial advance into the fortified position of Paisland. We can't let Terran hold a Motte and Bailey on the bottleneck border, especially if Terran does start bringing down the northerners, it would give you scope to campaign into Aurvandil with relative safety against Aurvandilan counter attack.

lulz, you're too nice...

Quote from: Vellos on October 08, 2012, 07:32:06 PM
Honestly, I don't want Terran to stop fighting until we're able to whip some discipline into our army. Terran needs to fight a real war, even if we lose, just so we can reprogram our army from "routine monster clearing missions" to "real fighting force." We'll see if we can accomplish that....

Problem is I'm not sure we'll be around after the "even if we lose part."

And honestly, we haven't been doing that terrible other than some minor mistakes and inactivity. It's just hard to look good when fighting a realm twice your size.

Quote from: NoblesseChevaleresque on October 08, 2012, 07:51:42 PM
Also, Terran scarcely had a reason to fight Aurvandil considering the peace terms we were working out with Barca, which put everything to Barca's favour and largely left the terms to their choosing.

If I remember correctly those peace terms did not include giving back the stolen regions, which is the main reason Terran started the war. Also, the war needed to happen one way or another. The 'Moot had one chance to challenge Aurvandil's strength and it coming sooner rather later, and with Lurian aid, was in the 'Moot's best interest. Unfortunately, things didn't go our way.
"A tale is but half told when only one person tells it." - The Saga of Grettir the Strong
- Current: Kemen (D'hara) - Past: Kerwin (Eston), Kale (Phantaria, Terran, Melodia)