Meanwhile, in Solaria...

[Solari]

D'hara is still there.
It is possible, perhaps most players feel unactracted by the idea of having to import food all the time.
I don't think it will be any hjarder then running D'hara.

PS, how much is alley of swords producing in food?
Tranquil produces almost 500 and flying hngrs(or something) about the same.

Dhara is in the desert. You're suggesting a realm made up, potentially, of BR, the Divides, AoS, Tranquil, and maybe a couple other regions. It's something like 80 hours to cross the divides under the best of circumstances. AoS produces around 200 bushels, IIRC. BR and the divides produce a combined total of maybe 40 food and maybe 400 gold. You'd need a city to support the mountains, and you'd need plenty of rurals to feed the city or a willing trade partner.

[Chenier]

D'hara is still there.
It is possible, perhaps most players feel unactracted by the idea of having to import food all the time.
I don't think it will be any hjarder then running D'hara.

PS, how much is alley of swords producing in food?
Tranquil produces almost 500 and flying hngrs(or something) about the same.

D'Hara may not have lots of food... but it has GOLD. And a crapload of fortifications. And until recently, few entry points. With the new system, it makes things different, but still hella hard to invade, and nowhere for monsters to come from.

BR doesn't run a food deficit, but it also doesn't produce a great surplus to sell, nor does it make any nice amounts of gold. Only the central region can be fortified, and leaving it to defend any other region takes forever (at least rogues don't instant-travel anymore, though).

Not the same thing at all. Sure, D'Hara needs to pay a heck of a lot of attention to food. But it's rewarding. There's nothing rewarding in BR...

[Woelfy]

You are mistaken about the fortifications. The mountain regions surrounding BR can have palisades.

But for the most part, yeah, nothing rewarding in BR.

[Chenier]

You are mistaken about the fortifications. The mountain regions surrounding BR can have palisades.

But for the most part, yeah, nothing rewarding in BR.

Can they really?

This is something I never remember properly. Can they still build those or are mountain palisades remnants of when one could build palisades in any region?

[Lorgan]

Nope it goes like this:

Stronghold: infinite (or level 10? Pretty much the same but I heard that somewhere recently)
Cities: level 5
Townslands: level 2
Mountains: level 1
Rest: nothing or really old remnants.

[Chenier]

Nope it goes like this:

Stronghold: infinite (or level 10? Pretty much the same but I heard that somewhere recently)
Cities: level 5
Townslands: level 2
Mountains: level 1
Rest: nothing or really old remnants.

I think we were told, for strongholds, that we could build as much as we wanted, to then be precised that 10 was the (very hard to reach) limit.

[Indirik]

I think the highest anyone has ever gotten is lvl 9.

[Velax]

Is level 9 noticeably more difficult to breach than level 5, out of curiosity?

[Chenier]

Is level 9 noticeably more difficult to breach than level 5, out of curiosity?

I would hope so, but I'd like to know by how much as well.

[Indirik]

Well, I know that lvl 7 is a bitch. I can only imagine how bad 9 would be.

[^ban^]

Is level 9 noticeably more difficult to breach than level 5, out of curiosity?

Dear gods, yes, yes it is.

I can't imagine anyone fielding the force you'd need to break level 9 walls anymore.

[Penchant]

So the question becomes, how many blocks for level 9 fortifications?

[Vellos]

So the question becomes, how many blocks for level 9 fortifications?

I seem to recall needing 40 to get to level 7?

[Penchant]

I seem to recall needing 40 to get to level 7?

and at that point do you remember how much a single block costs? Or a rough estimate ?

[Bedwyr]

Is level 9 noticeably more difficult to breach than level 5, out of curiosity?

According, once again, to The1exile's numbers, you (very roughly) need a twenty percent CS advantage per level of walls.  And that's assuming your CS is, as it should be for a fortification assault, in heavy infantry.  Archers get discounted, and cavalry is almost completely useless.  Light infantry is also less useful.  This was without SE's, but with lots of banners.

Based on that math (which only went up to level 5, and I'm wary about extrapolation given Tom's fondness for non-linear progressions), you would need nearly three times the CS with proper heavy infantry.