"Freeman" means nothing?

[KarMagedonn]

Sorry, but that is not true. I am speaking about RP too, if you execute someone a reason could be that, but you have to had a reason, usually investigated or "concocted it". And a freeman, yes he is a commoner, but he is not still an outlaw ! in every RPG when a peasant get prestige or honour more people knows from him and executing him would be a great problem to the one who kill him more even if that person does not give any reason, just execute him.
More even, if you have an adv and it get killed just because someone had a bad day... that is pretty unfair, more if that character has a long playgame behind and it is a freeman because you earn it, if freeman means nothing erase that. And you are going to excute him, at last with a reason, make a RP... Not just press the "button" same for nobles but since their beginings then. This is about RP and Game mechanics.

[Gustav Kuriga]

Actually, for all those who say "call him outlaw" I point you to the mechanics trump rp argument. He cannot be an outlaw, as there is a definitive status for that separate to that of a freeman as defined by mechanics.

[Indirik]

Actually, for all those who say "call him outlaw" I point you to the mechanics trump rp argument. He cannot be an outlaw, as there is a definitive status for that separate to that of a freeman as defined by mechanics.

I can still call him an outlaw. Hell, I can call him donkey, or a wheel of cheddar cheese if I feel like it.

[Velax]

All very interesting, but getting away from the point. RP-valid or not, it is not fun to have your adventurer executed on a whim, nor is it fun to feel so vulnerable all the time with a character I've played for months or years.

[Penchant]

All very interesting, but getting away from the point. RP-valid or not, it is not fun to have your adventurer executed on a whim, nor is it fun to feel so vulnerable all the time with a character I've played for months or years.

Agreed.

[egamma]

All very interesting, but getting away from the point. RP-valid or not, it is not fun to have your adventurer executed on a whim, nor is it fun to feel so vulnerable all the time with a character I've played for months or years.

You mean Terrence?

[vonGenf]

I can still call him an outlaw. Hell, I can call him donkey, or a wheel of cheddar cheese if I feel like it.

Sure. But it would be nice if Prestige counted for something. If you call a character with 15 prestige a wheel of cheddar cheese, you're willfully ignoring something the game is presenting you as fact: this man is prestigious, more so than half the knights of your realm.

[Indirik]

But he's still a commoner. Therefore, his name is Freeman Cheesehead.

[Velax]

You mean Terrence?

...yes? And, you know, any other adventurer that has been around for months or years?

[egamma]

...yes? And, you know, any other adventurer that has been around for months or years?

*scribble scribble*

hmm...interesting.

[Norrel]

Wouldn't a good compromise be having no actual hard-coded limits, since the legality of executing a freeman is obvious, but also having the judge lose h/p proportional to the adventurer's if he executes one without a ban?

[Indirik]

You already do.

[Chenier]

It would seem reasonable to me to require a ban to execute freemen. That's a feature request however, so you would have to submit a properly formatted one. You can see the format here:

http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,2131.0.html

Pretty sure you couldn't execute a freeman without a ban, back in the days...

[Lychaon]

I've got an adventurer character who is currently imprisoned and I'd really regret him to be executed. Theoretically he's "currently an adventurer in The Falkirkian Freestate", imprisoned in other realm, so he hasn't been banned, right? Could he be executed then just for fun?

The ransom to pay is really high, but my fear is to get him executed after the 6 days it seems he'll be imprisoned if I don't pay. He's pretty a tough guy and has gained a bit of honour and prestige, but I don't know actually if he's a freeman or just a !@#$ty-commoner...

(Sorry if it's not directly related to the main topic)

[Chenier]

I've got an adventurer character who is currently imprisoned and I'd really regret him to be executed. Theoretically he's "currently an adventurer in The Falkirkian Freestate", imprisoned in other realm, so he hasn't been banned, right? Could he be executed then just for fun?

The ransom to pay is really high, but my fear is to get him executed after the 6 days it seems he'll be imprisoned if I don't pay. He's pretty a tough guy and has gained a bit of honour and prestige, but I don't know actually if he's a freeman or just a !@#$ty-commoner...

(Sorry if it's not directly related to the main topic)

He likely got arrested for a reason, even if that reason may simply be that he was of Falkirk and left the protection of his homeland.

Problem with being an advy of Aurvandil or Falkirk is that most realms are likely to be unsympathetic to you.