Q: Relating to creating Duchies.

[Woelfy]

Okay. Conundrum.

Say, a kingdom with a stronghold, a city, and a townsland currently has two duchies. One based in the stronghold, one based in the city.

My question is: can this kingdom have 4 duchies under the new system?

I imagine creating a duchy for the Townsland and then requesting that individual to step down so that the Ducal Seat could be transferred elsewhere might be considered bad form, but I don't know the ins and outs to these particular matters. The margrave of the Townsland would be recompensed of course, but still, curious as to if there is some rule against me doing something like that.

[Chenier]

It would be bad form to ask someone to step down.

You can still incite him to accept another lordship with this in mind, to practically the same effect, but I'd avoid asking people to step down to shuffle them around just to create duchies if I were you.

[Indirik]

There is no such thing as a "ducal seat". Any city, townsland, or stronghold who's lord is not already a duke, can be made into a new duchy by the ruler, with the lord of that region becoming a duke.

You can have an unlimited number of duchies in your realm. Every noble could be a duke. You can have extra, empty duchies left over without dukes.

[Bluelake]

You can have an unlimited number of duchies in your realm. Every noble could be a duke. You can have extra, empty duchies left over without dukes.

Can you delete duchies in that case?

[Penchant]

Can you delete duchies in that case?

Yes though the term is not delete IG.

[Penchant]

There is no such thing as a "ducal seat". Any city, townsland, or stronghold who's lord is not already a duke, can be made into a new duchy by the ruler, with the lord of that region becoming a duke.

You can have an unlimited number of duchies in your realm. Every noble could be a duke. You can have extra, empty duchies left over without dukes.

Whats the point of requiring the starting region to be a city, townsland, or stronghold?

[Indirik]

Can you delete duchies in that case?

Duchies that have no regions in them can be disbanded, even if they still have a duke.

[Indirik]

Whats the point of requiring the starting region to be a city, townsland, or stronghold?

There had to be some criteria, and this is what Tom chose.

[Penchant]

There had to be some criteria, and this is what Tom chose.

Perhaps I should ask Tom then.

[vonGenf]

It would be bad form to ask someone to step down.

I don't think it's such bad form. You have a limited number of cities to go around, but asking someone to give up his city is hard as people want to keep them.

Asking someone to exchange their Margrave title for a Duke title, however, can still be seen as a promotion.

[egamma]

I imagine creating a duchy for the Townsland and then requesting that individual to step down so that the Ducal Seat could be transferred elsewhere might be considered bad form, but I don't know the ins and outs to these particular matters. The margrave of the Townsland would be recompensed of course, but still, curious as to if there is some rule against me doing something like that.

Also, you don't actually know that the margrave will step down until after you appoint him. He could trick you.