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Vulgar?

Started by Dante Silverfire, February 08, 2013, 11:07:17 PM

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Woelfy

If I reported the people who think I'm a douche and have told me so in game, I imagine the player base would be far smaller. At least on Dwilight....

I understand that my characters are hated (well, at least one of the current crop), but I am not my character. I just happen to be good at playing characters that get under people's skin.

Hell, even I think Sevastian is a douche at times, but that's the kind of 'person' he is.

Swordfell = !@#$, mostly due to the sheer OOC tripe that stems from a particular 'faction'. Dislike my character all you want, attack him as a noble, that's fine. But thinking that I am a douche because you dont like Sevastian....

That's !@#$ing stupid.

Velax

Keep it civil, people. If someone's insulted you OOC in-game, Woelfy, there are ways of dealing with it. Don't come here and throw insults around.

Woelfy

I'm not throwing insults by any means, and I apologize if it came off that way. My language may have been over harsh, but at least I'm polite enough to not point fingers. (for the record, I am not talking about Bowie or Abbigal, as I don't even get their letters, in case that is where the mixup was)

I am disgusted at how things have devolved lately on Dwilight. This current situation is a hair's weight from breaking the proverbial camel's back. I've tried dealing with it through the proper channels, and so far nothing has been done to rectify the situation or to even adjust it in a positive manner. My character is nigh-on silent there, yet I still get 'flamed' in game.

Kwanstein

It seems to me that the best way to become popular in this game is to moderate your interactions with others, so that your voice is known, but not too well known. Woelfy, your character strikes me as someone who interacts with others a lot, so it's no surprise to me that he is getting hate mail. I don't condone hate mail (I don't emphasize with the people who send it, to say the least), but, in my mind, avoiding it should be a simple feat. Merely limit your dialogue to a message once a week; make that message a sardonic remark, the kind one might write if he is drunk and bitter; watch as the haters no longer hate you, but treat you with indifference instead. I assure you that this will work.

Vellos

Quote from: Woelfy on February 16, 2013, 02:33:07 PM
I'm not throwing insults by any means, and I apologize if it came off that way. My language may have been over harsh, but at least I'm polite enough to not point fingers. (for the record, I am not talking about Bowie or Abbigal, as I don't even get their letters, in case that is where the mixup was)

I am disgusted at how things have devolved lately on Dwilight. This current situation is a hair's weight from breaking the proverbial camel's back. I've tried dealing with it through the proper channels, and so far nothing has been done to rectify the situation or to even adjust it in a positive manner. My character is nigh-on silent there, yet I still get 'flamed' in game.

If you feel you have been OOC mistreated, please, start a Magistrate's case.
"A neutral humanism is either a pedantic artifice or a prologue to the inhuman." - George Steiner

Dishman

Quote from: Kwanstein on February 16, 2013, 04:45:30 PM
Merely limit your dialogue to a message once a week; make that message a sardonic remark, the kind one might write if he is drunk and bitter; watch as the haters no longer hate you, but treat you with indifference instead. I assure you that this will work.

I'm not sure what is going on in private, but this is about what I've been receiving from Sevastian on the realm channel. Amusing references to the horrible horrible things he does to the endless messengers he receives from Bowie. It was most fitting, and I think that might have been the reason Bowie wrote the necro-love play. I for one haven't seen anything I consider 'vulgar'. Sometime Abbigal's spelling is atrocious, but I'm the type to let a lot of things fly.
Eoric the Dim (Perdan), Enoch the Bright (Asylon), Emeric the Dark (Obsidian Islands)

Orobos, The Insatiable Snake (Sandalak)

Woelfy

Quote from: Vellos on February 16, 2013, 06:39:01 PM
If you feel you have been OOC mistreated, please, start a Magistrate's case.

I've started a magistrate's case because I am getting sick of all of this nonsense. Maybe this will work to help the problem.

Dishman

I wasn't aware that people would flag RPs as vulgar. Apparently if a peasant curses while talking to a lord in a private conversation it becomes public knowledge and everyone disapproves. I suppose I should censor myself from now on.

Etiquette Issue   (2 hours, 24 minutes ago)
One of your recent messages, reproduced below, has caused many raised eyebrows among your peers and fellow nobles agree that this way of talking is unbefitting of a noble. Your respect among the nobility falls, resulting in a loss of a point of honour.

The Message:
"Tankred! You're walking?" Enoch sputtered as he trekked toward the Divides. Tankred had miraculously recovered quickly and now seemed fit enough to draw a bow.

Tankred talked weakly, lacking his normal bolsterous tone. "Aye, being carried on a litter by scribes...it'd wake the dead. Those small armed ninnies jostled me like churned butter, and that old healer did nothing sew me up and drug me higher. What happened back there?".

"All our men are dead...most of others squads are probably the same. Too many beasts, not enough arrows. We are trekking toward Balance's Retreat to hire fresh men and then back toward Nyuushi. From there we'll either work with D'Hara to return it to Swordfell, or more likely we'll meet it in anarchy and have to try to occupy the region again. Our home in Nyuushi seems to have been a bust for now."

Tankred continued to hobble along...all he muttered was "!@#$ the ungrateful lot of 'em". Enoch understood his captain's frustration, but hoped some of his humor returned by the time they returned. They continued in silence.
Eoric the Dim (Perdan), Enoch the Bright (Asylon), Emeric the Dark (Obsidian Islands)

Orobos, The Insatiable Snake (Sandalak)

Penchant

Yeah...That is total BS. IC, no one knew about so there is no reason, plus its a peasant swearing in private, not your noble swearing in public. And no reason to do it OOC, as you weren't being excessively vulgar in the roleplay.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
― G.K. Chesterton

Draco Tanos

Have to agree.  Should not have been reported and it certainly should not have been voted on poorly.

In truth, I think the system needs a real revamp as few people seem to use it properly.

Dishman

IC, there is no reason for a vulgarity report. I'm understanding of it, though. The game is generally an 'all ages' type game, and dropping f' bombs nonchalantly probably wasn't a bright idea.

Although, 'frig, fie, and curse' are poor substitutes for my frustration with trying to hold Nyuushi. Took control, 2 monster and an undead horde pop up, go toward the capital to refit and cash bonds to be able to get some militia and recruits going, find out Sevastian has a region-wide festival going blocking activity, Nyuushi joins D'Hara then rogue, then I lose everyone but my captain trying to slim the undead. I've lost 2 tax days and about a week traipsing back and forth through the Divides. I'd be pulling hair out if losing wasn't so much 'fun'.
Eoric the Dim (Perdan), Enoch the Bright (Asylon), Emeric the Dark (Obsidian Islands)

Orobos, The Insatiable Snake (Sandalak)

Kwanstein

Use an equivalent word as a substitute. E.g. 'plow,' "Plow the ungrateful lot of them." It's reasonable to assume that the people of this setting would use plow as a swear equivalent to !@#$, so it retains the same meaning and power.

Indirik

Quote from: Draco Tanos on March 10, 2013, 01:26:27 AM
In truth, I think the system needs a real revamp as few people seem to use it properly.
On what information do you base this conclusion? How many messages per week are reported for vulgarity? How many are judged vulgar, and how many are not? How many are improperly flagged either way?
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

Gustav Kuriga

Quote from: Kwanstein on March 10, 2013, 02:42:19 AM
Use an equivalent word as a substitute. E.g. 'plow,' "Plow the ungrateful lot of them." It's reasonable to assume that the people of this setting would use plow as a swear equivalent to !@#$, so it retains the same meaning and power.

Except that this was a roleplay, and the peasant in the roleplay spoke the word. Not the noble.

Indirik

That's what you get for permitting such crass behavior from your common servants. You should teach them proper manners for use in the presence of their betters.  ;)

Srsly though, I wouldn't have marked that as vulgar.
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.