Nivemus vs. Perdan

[Uzamaki]

So, if you had all these legitimate reasons for the war, why wait for Perdan to make up some completely bogus and fake reason to start it?

+1.

I was waiting on Sirion to give me the rights to Oligarch.  ::)

[Dishman]

Actually i wouldn't call that a defeat, even after losing the battle, Perdan have done a lot damage to Nivemus regions, and that is difficult to recover.

The battle of Oberndorf was a definite defeat, but it let flanking forces pillage freely farther north. So far, Nivemus and Sirion are on the defensive and Nivemus is still taking good chunks of damage. This doesn't bode well for Nivemus, despite a nice victory in a pitched battle. If all it takes to tie up the armies of Nivemus and Sirion is to sit on the edge of Westmoor and misdirect...we'll continue to loot them from behind.

I'm curious what Caligus and Eponlyn are thinking right now. Join the north vs south continent war? Take a cheap shot at a tied up neighbor without getting entangled? Sit on their helmets and sleep through the war?

[feyeleanor]

Actually i wouldn't call that a defeat, even after losing the battle, Perdan have done a lot damage to Nivemus regions, and that is difficult to recover.

When the gold get scarced and recruitment centers are empty, you will remember that winning a battle is not everything. Specially if you win just to go back home.

You're forgetting that home for Sirion is considerably closer than for Perdan or Armonia. Those sneak attacks through OI will have to be running like clockwork to keep the pressure Nivemus, and the bulk of SA forces will have to keep marching to probable defeat on the Westmoor front. Meanwhile all Sirion has to do is keep ramping up her veteran units to match her income and the balance of power will be very much in her favour.

[Uzamaki]

I think it's worth noting that Perdan has pillaged and marauded in Nivemus and Nivemus has specific orders not to pillage and maraud considering the 'reason' for this war.  :P

[Dishman]

So what I'm hearing is that Perdan has free range to pillage Nivemus. I'm sure they will get tired of burning and plunder after a while. Nivemus just needs to wait it out.  ;)

Until Nivemus/Sirion march towards fortified regions in Westmoor/Perdan...it's happy fun pillage time. Even when they decide to counter attack, they leave themselves open to even more happy-fun-pillage-time. Nivemus seems in the squeeze, but time will tell how much of one.

Is Caligus in the 'Church of Humanity"? After Sirion looted a shrine, I'd think that would be a good excuse for Caligus to jump in and grow fat with Sirion land.

[Zakilevo]

So what I'm hearing is that Perdan has free range to pillage Nivemus. I'm sure they will get tired of burning and plunder after a while. Nivemus just needs to wait it out.  ;)

Until Nivemus/Sirion march towards fortified regions in Westmoor/Perdan...it's happy fun pillage time. Even when they decide to counter attack, they leave themselves open to even more happy-fun-pillage-time. Nivemus seems in the squeeze, but time will tell how much of one.

Is Caligus in the 'Church of Humanity"? After Sirion looted a shrine, I'd think that would be a good excuse for Caligus to jump in and grow fat with Sirion land.

Unless CoH has managed to convert Dobromir as well, he won't join the CoH group. If he doesn't join the group, his realm won't join the war.

[Atanamir]

I think it's worth noting that Perdan has pillaged and marauded in Nivemus and Nivemus has specific orders not to pillage and maraud considering the 'reason' for this war.  :P

If you would care to read the storyline of the RPs of Atanamir you would know why Perdan pillages and marauds.

[vonGenf]

If you would care to read the storyline of the RPs of Atanamir you would know why Perdan pillages and marauds.

It's still worth noting!

[Sonya]

Ohh Great....Now is a "Gold Digging Contest"

When i was young we used to seek the enemy on the field and fight! With Honor, determination, passion, conviction, without fear and looking at the front with sword in hand smashing our faces on Trimbar's Palisad....... Well...You get the point.

Can we have battles please? Stop the LootingMaster!

[Astinus]

I have no character on EC for now, but I find wars with lots of maneuvers way more interesting than simplier "let's faceroll the enemy till one of us ends up without troops"

[Sonya]

I have no character on EC for now, but I find wars with lots of maneuvers way more interesting than simplier "let's faceroll the enemy till one of us ends up without troops"

Yea like:
"Look the enemy is moving to our region"
"Shhhn quiet they can heard us, we are going to their region"

:-\  :-\  :-\  :-\

Maneuvers is one thing, like a raiding party. But for a main army avoiding another is a shame. I miss the old glory and honor times  :(

[Astinus]

Still, I think that a main army avoiding another until they can get an advantage is more interesting than just recrtuit up and hope we'll have more cs than them. Battlemaster has a very limited strategical aspect and from what I'm hearing here, Perdan and Sirion are playing it.

I'm considering starting a character there...

[Dishman]

Maneuvers is one thing, like a raiding party. But for a main army avoiding another is a shame. I miss the old glory and honor times  :(

I would think the memory of the massive battle in Oberndorf wouldn't have faded so quickly. I'm all for great battles and epic fights, but why blindly go into a meat grinder?

Nivemus and Sirion are trying to defend. The whole point of great battles and those 'honor times' is to determine who can loot and who gets hunted....if Nivemus isnt defending their land then it's already settled who gets to loot and any 'honor times' are just for show. It's strategically better for Perdan/Westmoor to loot the whole of Nivemus rogue rather than battle-refit-battle-refit.

Eventually a duke will secede and become a semi-autonomous vassal...which is a much better deal than duke to a burning realm.

[Indirik]

If Nivemus/Sirion won't loot, while the southerners do loot, then the southerners win, hands down. It's a pretty stupid way to fight a war. Sirion should be burning Westmoor to the ground at every opportunity.

[Zakilevo]

If Nivemus/Sirion won't loot, while the southerners do loot, then the southerners win, hands down. It's a pretty stupid way to fight a war. Sirion should be burning Westmoor to the ground at every opportunity.

Indeed...