Nivemus vs. Perdan

[loren]

One thing's for certain.. I'm done with using Cavalry. They suck. Always get ripped apart even with good settings! >.>

Well, I don't think they suck.  The defenders were using box too, but since the attackers didn't have a whole lot of archers and the defenders forced the attackers to sit in a lot of withering archer fire for so long that the Cav took losses.  Really, the biggest problem was that the Cav didn't get to charge.  A lot of units broke out of their defensive position and stopped them from charging, negating the hit boost.

That could've been fixed by a Cav Charge, or the all out charge opening by the attackers, but you didn't have a huge amount of Cav that could've stood up to an infantry wall defense for at least one round.  So it was a lose lose for the attackers that time.

[Karlaek]

Well I'm almost flat broke from recruiting almost max units twice, and the most recent battle has wiped my men out completely.
Now I'm basically recovering from my light wounds in Ashforth until I can get enough gold to sally forth once more... at least my family lives in the city to keep me company!

[Sonya]

Sirion's Heavy Cavalry is always expected, that's why i had a 120 Cavalry unit to compensate it, sadly didn't make it on time.   ::)

But what took me off guard more, was the Archer superiority as well. I was not present, no one have shared a battle report and considering what Zaki previously posted, it seems that no setting were used, then:

51 attackers (3114 Inf, 207 Arch, 291 Cav, 30 SF)
58 defenders (1919 Inf, 580 Arch, 613 Cav, 465 SF)

Unless the Sirion's SF were the Shadow Blades (100/100/99) the only option for the attackers was to Inf Charge, to crowd the front lines with higher number of infantry, and avoid at least most of the Cavalry charges.

This battle was a total meat grinding to me.

Well, this was the first battle, i doubt that there will be another huge one like this, this time everyone used old and trained units, now the time to micromanage the gold will come.

Lets see what the next week will bring us!  :)

[Zakilevo]

Many people lost their well trained units in this battle. First Nivemus lost their units in the north. But with this battle, all the southerners lost a good portion of their trained units. Perdan still has good units (PMW) so it wasn't as big of a loss for them. Sirion lost half of their men as well though some of recovering. Armonia will have a fun time going back to the south ;)

[Ketchum]

Sirion's Heavy Cavalry is always expected, that's why i had a 120 Cavalry unit to compensate it, sadly didn't make it on time.   ::)

Lets see what the next week will bring us!  :)

The road is overcrowded with soldiers or infiltrator delay you? ::)

Many people lost their well trained units in this battle. First Nivemus lost their units in the north. But with this battle, all the southerners lost a good portion of their trained units. Perdan still has good units (PMW) so it wasn't as big of a loss for them. Sirion lost half of their men as well though some of recovering. Armonia will have a fun time going back to the south ;)

Yes, it is quite a bad move on Nivemus to lose their units in the north. Or we could have see even bigger battle in Oberndorf. The murdering off militia by Perdan infiltrators are having some effects on the northern Nivemus lands. All realms involve will need sometime to recover from these recent battles; trained units need fresh recruit, gold will be handout, and so on. You all veteran at wars, should know these ;D

On another note, I never thought my character Brock, Lord of Pedrera region of which Atanamir made RolePlays on. They both met in Juazeiro battle with Atanamir seriously wounding Brock. I would love to have Brock payback Atanamir for what he did  :P

[Draco Tanos]

He's already continuing to pay Brock back for his insolence by likely driving Pedrera rogue. :P

[Noldorin]

This may be a more or less correct/suitable description of the events, but nonetheless shared with the Generals of East Contienets:

First Westmoor sends priests into Nivemus, 19 days ago. Gaenm ap Gaenvan, a priest of Church of Humanity was in Oberndorf.

Westmoor let Perdan armies march through their lands to attack Nivemus without any aggression or act of violence from our part.

Perdan attacks Nivemus, for the disillusions of Atanamir.

Sirions moves in to defend Nivemus from foreign aggressors.

Perdan flees and refits, and once more travel through Westmoor to attack Nivemus.

Nivemus sends a nobles through Westmoor to keep scouting the Perdan army. This is needed since Westmoor bends over and is !@#$ed in the arse repeadedly as the barmaids they are. No Westmoorian would ever stand up straight in the sight of Perdanese, keeping their heads in suitable height whenever they are needed.

Armonia sees it fit to travel north as well to attack Nivemus. Apparently Nivemus has highly insulted them by defending their lands with their allies. I would be most pleased to hear what these southerners have to say. Surely they have some way of communicating. If their General does not manage it, have one of your diplomats contact me.

Westmoor is also highly angered that Nivemus respond to the Perdan attack. If they are not men enough to keep their pants on when a Perdanese soldier walks past, who is anyone else to keep their ass-cheeks shut? Westmoor attacks Nivemus to keep their pride in place.

One Perdanese army slips through the northern defences, while the Westmoorian, Armonian and half Perdanese army is slaughtered in Salta.

awaiting vulgarity bolt...

[Karlaek]

Yup, all of us here in Nivemus do seem to attract aggression... Luckily Sirion is sensible and friendly.  It is kind of funny that Perdan's king is stuck in the north looting his precious region and terrorizing the populace that we were supposedly oppressing.  With any luck we'll be able to corner him up there and route his forces eventually.  Unfortunately that doesn't look like it'll happen too soon.

[Draco Tanos]

First Westmoor sends priests into Nivemus, 19 days ago. Gaenm ap Gaenvan, a priest of Church of Humanity was in Oberndorf.

Westmoor does not "allow" priests to move anywhere.  The Church of Humanity is an independent organization, no matter what Jor's profession is.  Not to mention two things:  1.  Nivemus did not mention it to the Church or Westmoor if there were any concerns.  2.  To my knowledge, he did nothing game-function-wise. 

Though the first issue would, of course, be Davis coming into Westmoor attempting to challenge people to duels to circumvent assassination and perform "friendly" attempts at bounty collecting.  This happened long before Gaenm entered Oberndorf to visit the ruins of the temple we had there that Nivemus's first monarch swore would be kept safe, yet was torn down.

Westmoor let Perdan armies march through their lands to attack Nivemus without any aggression or act of violence from our part.

1.  We are obligated by treaty.  2.  Now Nivemus knows how we felt when they allowed Sirion to use their lands in their war of aggression.
Perdan attacks Nivemus, for the disillusions of Atanamir.

Sirions moves in to defend Nivemus from foreign aggressors.

Yes, Sirion defends its property.

Perdan flees and refits, and once more travel through Westmoor to attack Nivemus.

Treaties don't suddenly disappear.

Nivemus sends a nobles through Westmoor to keep scouting the Perdan army. This is needed since Westmoor bends over and is !@#$ed in the arse repeadedly as the barmaids they are. No Westmoorian would ever stand up straight in the sight of Perdanese, keeping their heads in suitable height whenever they are needed.

LOL.  Considering we've come close to war with Perdan a few times (in public even), I love hearing this fallacy.  Meanwhile Nivemus is either always on its knees or they keep any disagreements with their lords and masters in Sirion behind closed doors.

Basically, the replies are all the same:  Westmoor and Armonia gave Perdan their word.  Unlike Nivemus, we're not going back on our word.  Nivemus has made no attempt to improve relations with Westmoor, or negotiate right of passage.  Things don't magically go your way?  Someone else is the pet of another realm.  I suppose redirecting your frustration over your relationship with Sirion towards us is natural.

Yup, all of us here in Nivemus do seem to attract aggression...

This is what happens when a realm allows a large influx of Fontanese and honorless traitors to infiltrate its nobility. 

Luckily Sirion is sensible and friendly.

Sensible is never a term I'd use to describe Sirion, but of course they are friendly towards Nivemus.  They view you as their property.

[Foxglove]

Not to mention that Kronogos Neji had been plotting a war against Westmoor and Perdan for some time and gathering allies. This was reported back to both Westmoor and Perdan, and later came to light for most of the EC when Armonia refused to ally with Nivemus/Sirion and chose an alliance with Westmoor instead.

Nivemus never did anything to justify a war against it? Oh, come on.  ::)

[Indirik]

So, if you had all these legitimate reasons for the war, why wait for Perdan to make up some completely bogus and fake reason to start it?

[feyeleanor]

A rather pleasant morning constitutional, made all the better for seeing Perdan and Westmoor fleeing home with their tails betwixt their nethers.

	hits dealt	hits taken
Brigdha	5659	405
Aednadh	2722	43

[feyeleanor]

Not to mention that Kronogos Neji had been plotting a war against Westmoor and Perdan for some time and gathering allies. This was reported back to both Westmoor and Perdan, and later came to light for most of the EC when Armonia refused to ally with Nivemus/Sirion and chose an alliance with Westmoor instead.

Sirion chose not to ally with Armonia having received a request from the Queen. The general thinking was that embroiling ourselves in the internal affairs of the south would be pointless.

[Chaotrance13]

A rather pleasant morning constitutional, made all the better for seeing Perdan and Westmoor fleeing home with their tails betwixt their nethers.

	hits dealt	hits taken
Brigdha	5659	405
Aednadh	2722	43

You again? Back under your bridge.

[Sonya]

A rather pleasant morning constitutional, made all the better for seeing Perdan and Westmoor fleeing home with their tails betwixt their nethers.

Actually i wouldn't call that a defeat, even after losing the battle, Perdan have done a lot damage to Nivemus regions, and that is difficult to recover.

When the gold get scarced and recruitment centers are empty, you will remember that winning a battle is not everything. Specially if you win just to go back home.


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