Rulers and New Estate System

[Dante Silverfire]

So, under the old estate system, if someone was elected as Ruler they sometimes lost their other titles such as Lord, duke, etc... depending upon the circumstances.

My question is does a Duke that becomes Ruler lose their ducal position upon becoming Ruler under the new system?

[Penchant]

My question is does a Duke that becomes Ruler lose their ducal position upon becoming Ruler under the new system?

No. The removal of titles is only to keep the chain of command. You can't be duke and have an estate without being region lord as that means someone is both above you yet below you and makes no sense. Same thing with being a ruler in that you can't be a lord and ruler without being duke because your duke would be your vassal and boss, which again does not make sense.

[Chenier]

No. The removal of titles is only to keep the chain of command. You can't be duke and have an estate without being region lord as that means someone is both above you yet below you and makes no sense. Same thing with being a ruler in that you can't be a lord and ruler without being duke because your duke would be your vassal and boss, which again does not make sense.

Yes and no. I'm pretty sure that some government elections still kick out the incumbent. I may be wrong, as it might have changed, but I remember having to rerun for some of my lordship titles after winning a ruler election. That was likely before the new system, though, but I was under the impression that most of what I've witnessed since was due to this code, and not the oath auto-"fix" that runs two hours after TC.

[fodder]

i think folcard wasn't kicked.

[egamma]

So, under the old estate system, if someone was elected as Ruler they sometimes lost their other titles such as Lord, duke, etc... depending upon the circumstances.

My question is does a Duke that becomes Ruler lose their ducal position upon becoming Ruler under the new system?

No.

[Eduardo Almighty]

When Yeux became King he lost his titles as Margrave and Duke... but he's the King, he just appoint himself again for his position as Duke and appointed somone else as Margrave in a day of good humor. The only problem is that he don't have a region nor estates.

[Chenier]

When Yeux became King he lost his titles as Margrave and Duke... but he's the King, he just appoint himself again for his position as Duke and appointed somone else as Margrave in a day of good humor. The only problem is that he don't have a region nor estates.

When the duke of York stepped down, Stanislav Chénier (the king, me) was able to appoint himself both duke and margrave.

[Eduardo Almighty]

I just decided let someone else take place as Margrave to continue just as Duke and King. But yes, we can appoint for Duke and Margrave.

[Foundation]

Why does he lose his dukedom and margraveship when he became king?