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Started by dustole, April 06, 2013, 03:38:46 AM

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Daimall

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Lefanis

Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on June 16, 2013, 12:33:59 AM
As yet no consequences for kicking the regent from his estate... surprising.

Still chilling with the 400 gold I got at tax, sorry to disappoint bro.
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Frostwood

Well if there is any solace, at least dustole probably has no idea what I've done to his character... :-X
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dustole

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Frostwood

Quote from: dustole on June 16, 2013, 02:36:34 AM
I've dealt with a great deal more than I believe you to be capable of
It was just something fun nothing harmful.
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Arrakis

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Quote from: JeVondair on June 15, 2013, 01:35:41 PM
Do whatever you want, just leave D'Hara & Co. out of it.

Leopold doesn't really care for D'Hara, as probably D'Hara doesn't care for Niselur, even though the two are allied. However, I imagine that the forthcoming conflict will be much more than just Niselur. D'Hara will likely be drawn in whether they like it or not. With the new D'Haran Prime Minister on board, who is giving the impression of a hardcore Elder (which may not necessarily be so), Leopold's affinity towards D'Hara is decreasing. The alliance between Niselur and D'Hara is inconvenient for some I think, and Leopold has much more important allies than D'Hara is. So, as I said, it is likely that D'Harans will share some collateral damage. Dwilight politics combined with the current diplomacy system really is like a maze. Leopold needs break off from the maze if he wants the diplomatic relations to reflect the *real* situation. D'Hara simply doesn't fit in at the moment.
Gregorian (Eponllyn), Baudouin (Cathay), Thaddeus (Cathay), Leopold (Niselur)

JeVondair

Quote from: Arrakis on June 16, 2013, 12:37:24 PM
Leopold doesn't really care for D'Hara, as probably D'Hara doesn't care for Niselur, even though the two are allied. However, I imagine that the forthcoming conflict will be much more than just Niselur. D'Hara will likely be drawn in whether they like it or not. With the new D'Haran Prime Minister on board, who is giving the impression of a hardcore Elder (which may not necessarily be so), Leopold's affinity towards D'Hara is decreasing. The alliance between Niselur and D'Hara is inconvenient for some I think, and Leopold has much more important allies than D'Hara is. So, as I said, it is likely that D'Harans will share some collateral damage. Dwilight politics combined with the current diplomacy system really is like a maze. Leopold needs break off from the maze if he wants the diplomatic relations to reflect the *real* situation. D'Hara simply doesn't fit in at the moment.

If Rynn had noticed the alliance was still intact, he would have dissolved it on the spot. Rebel scum. Turin is a friend of his. Rynn never sent a message of any kind to Leopold because he sees official correspondence as a legitimizing action. Even with Gillian in Saffalore, he only ever referred to her as "Duchess."

And Dwilight politics is not a maze. You are either Lurian or NOT Lurian. Fin.  8)
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Stabbity

Quote from: JeVondair on June 16, 2013, 03:49:30 PM
If Rynn had noticed the alliance was still intact, he would have dissolved it on the spot. Rebel scum. Turin is a friend of his. Rynn never sent a message of any kind to Leopold because he sees official correspondence as a legitimizing action. Even with Gillian in Saffalore, he only ever referred to her as "Duchess."

And Dwilight politics is not a maze. You are either Lurian or NOT Lurian. Fin.  8)

QuoteYou are either Lurian or a victim.

Fixed.
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Vellos

Quote from: Arrakis on June 16, 2013, 12:37:24 PM
is giving the impression of a hardcore Elder (which may not necessarily be so),

LOL.

I think there's a unique psychosis in Niselur where they have an inability to understand church politics.

For anyone who hasn't been following things: Hireshmont, Pierre, and Khari are holdin' down the anti-war, make-a-settlement-with-Niselur camp.
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Arrakis

Impressions vary and it is a matter of perspective. Obviously you can't see it from Leopold's perspective, but does it really matter? He doesn't see Pierre von Genf. He sees Pierre von Genf on the helm of D'Hara. D'Hara is a mystery and unlikely a realm that would side with Leopold in anything. It is why I said that the affinity towards D'Hara has decreased.
Gregorian (Eponllyn), Baudouin (Cathay), Thaddeus (Cathay), Leopold (Niselur)

Chenier

Quote from: Frostwood on June 15, 2013, 03:32:57 AM
We just changed the descriptions to Kingdom, and changed a few laws, and withdrew from the charter.  Since we are not looking for a crusade, we don't need to go through the hoops to change it into a monarchy.  D'Hara's monarchy-republic style seems to work, so why a not Monarchy/Theocracy  for us?

D'Hara does have a monarch, though, so the label of Monarchy is actually quite fitting. We do have a republican form of governance, but we remain very much so a monarchy.
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Chenier

Quote from: JeVondair on June 16, 2013, 03:49:30 PM
If Rynn had noticed the alliance was still intact, he would have dissolved it on the spot. Rebel scum. Turin is a friend of his. Rynn never sent a message of any kind to Leopold because he sees official correspondence as a legitimizing action. Even with Gillian in Saffalore, he only ever referred to her as "Duchess."

And Dwilight politics is not a maze. You are either Lurian or NOT Lurian. Fin.  8)

Not in Rynn's hands anymore, though. ;)
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Chenier

Quote from: Arrakis on June 17, 2013, 12:20:41 AM
Impressions vary and it is a matter of perspective. Obviously you can't see it from Leopold's perspective, but does it really matter? He doesn't see Pierre von Genf. He sees Pierre von Genf on the helm of D'Hara. D'Hara is a mystery and unlikely a realm that would side with Leopold in anything. It is why I said that the affinity towards D'Hara has decreased.

The thing with diplomacy is that it's always complicated. Except for people like the Lurians, you often both have reasons to like and dislike someone.

D'Harans have various reasons to both like and dislike Niselur, and thus the opinion a D'Haran has about Niselur depends on how much importance that individual accords to each of those reasons. And D'Haran politics depend on the opinion of a number of such individuals.
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Frostwood

Lord Mayhem, is quite hot-headed....
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