On SA's political coalition: Pros, Cons, and Potential Action.

[Glaumring the Fox]

Astrum should seriously consider wiping FR out ;)

Astrum should seriously consider wiping itself out in an awesome civil war... ;)

[Marlboro]

Astrum should seriously consider wiping FR out ;)

:-* Bet you'd do waaay better against FR and Asylon than you're doing against just Asylon by itself.

[Geronus]

I'm not talking about the founder or a specific ruler, the problem is this strong peace between 5 huge realms and the social/political dynamic that is diminishing conflict on the island.
The solution that i would suggest would be for the players and leadership to encourage more authentic "medieval behavior" so the nations among the faith of SA can squabble and fight. However, the problem is that the religion has manifested itself into a nearly unshakeable mass political alliance that is killing the fun in the game. I want people to make plans to do something about it! Let's make things interesting!

So, why don't you be that person? Why don't you make yourself the leadership who can do something about this? If you don't like it, change it.

[cenrae]

Whats all this talk of FR taking lands to its south...?

:)

[Feylonis]

I'm waiting for someone to call out how Halleria is binding FR more closely to SA through both domestic laws and foreign treaties, heh.

PS

There can only be one power in the West.  ;)

[Perth]

The Farronites did what Terran was incapable of doing, and that was seeing passed a few short term gains, if the Terrans had fought against Kabrinskia they would have a duchy in Golden Farrow and their empire would be powerful, independent and alive. Instead they cowed to SA, they made enemies where once the greatest friend and ally was and failed to see that they could be more. Asylon will do for the Farronites what no other could believe possible, we will make them a powerhouse in the west lands and in time free them from the iron grip of Astrum and theocracies and show you all how truly wrong and shortsighted you have been about the sleeping bear of the westlands.

No.

Not. !@#$ing. Again.

You are so banned from ever talking about that war. Ever. Stop.

[Arrakis]

Political situation in the north is very tight and limited, I admit that. From my character's point of view though, there is always room to seize opportunities and this is a chance for Leopold to prove he can sail these dangerous waters with agility of a seasoned shark, and find something for his nobles to 'do' while simultaneously increasing his own power. Really interested if it works out or not.

If game mechanics would support alliances requiring resources, such as gold, then I think the northern block would be harder to maintain, hence providing more room for conflict. However, relying solely on the mindset of 21st century player to create fun when there is a big SA club over his head is a long shot. Everyone blames the rulers for this, but I think they share the blame with the Dukes.

[Glaumring the Fox]

No.

Not. !@#$ing. Again.

You are so banned from ever talking about that war. Ever. Stop.

The truth hurts.... ;)

[Glaumring the Fox]

Political situation in the north is very tight and limited, I admit that. From my character's point of view though, there is always room to seize opportunities and this is a chance for Leopold to prove he can sail these dangerous waters with agility of a seasoned shark, and find something for his nobles to 'do' while simultaneously increasing his own power. Really interested if it works out or not.

If game mechanics would support alliances requiring resources, such as gold, then I think the northern block would be harder to maintain, hence providing more room for conflict. However, relying solely on the mindset of 21st century player to create fun when there is a big SA club over his head is a long shot. Everyone blames the rulers for this, but I think they share the blame with the Dukes.

People are complaining about how boring this Asylon vs Astrum war is and I have to explain to you all that this is how a war against a huge alliance is fought, boring defensive survival. I refuse to make this war fun for the federations aligned against us, We will employ tactics that bore them to death.

[Indirik]

I haven't heard anyone say the war is boring. There's just no reason for it to continue. The objectives that Astrum had set forth have been met. Asylon met its objectives, too. So, why keep fighting?

[Chenier]

The truth hurts.... ;)

Shut up about it, seriously. You've said like a billion times that you wouldn't talk about it anymore, and you keep doing it anyways.

People are complaining about how boring this Asylon vs Astrum war is and I have to explain to you all that this is how a war against a huge alliance is fought, boring defensive survival. I refuse to make this war fun for the federations aligned against us, We will employ tactics that bore them to death.

Are they now? Who is? For the love of god, don't say I am, as you seemed to suggest in an earlier post.

I don't give a damn what you war is like. I seriously don't. Why would I complain about something I don't give a damn about?

All I said regarding your war is that it looked without promise, because you've already signed peace with a bunch of people, and are also already seeking peace with the rest of them. As such, if someone wants war, it makes no sense to join a realm who likely won't be at war anymore soon enough. As opposed to a realm like Fissoa or D'Hara, who will likely keep on being at war for quite some time still.

My last posts had nothing to do with the quality of any wars whatsoever, only of their perspectives for longevity.

Actually, I dug up the post, and it's not implied at all, it's openly stated.

Not a chance in hell. I'd rather fight on the wrong side for the right ideals than to give into a form of playstyle I find so deeply wrong like the massive federations/alliances of SA. Its wrong wrong wrong and I will fight every day to see it stopped.


I have heard this a few times coming from Chenier mostly to discourage new players or players coming to Asylons war by saying ' yeah its a dead boring war etc etc etc' I'm sorry Chenier but unlike D'Harans we actually fight wars and they take long times and they are sadly about so many different strategies that you wouldnt understand. Asylon has to fight a slow defensive war because we are fighting against a massive SA alliance, their economies are huge, they combined have far more nobles, what do you want Asylon to do? We can't be risky or fight dramatic battles, we are the underdog and fighting against extremely unfair odds. Do we complain ? No we keep fighting, so STFU about Asylons war being so boooring compared to the excitement of doing nothing for their allies the D'Harans.

This is more of your really tiring self-victimization based on horrendous distortions of what people say. I even looked it up for you. In my last 75 posts on these forums, dating from two weeks back, I never once wrote the word "boring". Not once. I used "dull" twice, and neither case in relation to Asylon. Stop saying everyone's out to get you. I don't give a !@#$ about you. You don't need to play victim all of the time.

[Tandaros]

Political situation in the north is very tight and limited, I admit that. From my character's point of view though, there is always room to seize opportunities and this is a chance for Leopold to prove he can sail these dangerous waters with agility of a seasoned shark, and find something for his nobles to 'do' while simultaneously increasing his own power. Really interested if it works out or not.

If game mechanics would support alliances requiring resources, such as gold, then I think the northern block would be harder to maintain, hence providing more room for conflict. However, relying solely on the mindset of 21st century player to create fun when there is a big SA club over his head is a long shot. Everyone blames the rulers for this, but I think they share the blame with the Dukes.

You have a point. Bored dukes could go off and secede at any time. Do iiiit!

I think the dukes are the most interesting but underplayed class in the game. They're like the kingmakers. They scheme.. a lot. They have serious clout. Similarly, AFK dukes are a serious contributor to stagnation imo.

[Glaumring the Fox]

Shut up about it, seriously. You've said like a billion times that you wouldn't talk about it anymore, and you keep doing it anyways.

Are they now? Who is? For the love of god, don't say I am, as you seemed to suggest in an earlier post.

I don't give a damn what you war is like. I seriously don't. Why would I complain about something I don't give a damn about?

All I said regarding your war is that it looked without promise, because you've already signed peace with a bunch of people, and are also already seeking peace with the rest of them. As such, if someone wants war, it makes no sense to join a realm who likely won't be at war anymore soon enough. As opposed to a realm like Fissoa or D'Hara, who will likely keep on being at war for quite some time still.

My last posts had nothing to do with the quality of any wars whatsoever, only of their perspectives for longevity.

Actually, I dug up the post, and it's not implied at all, it's openly stated.

This is more of your really tiring self-victimization based on horrendous distortions of what people say. I even looked it up for you. In my last 75 posts on these forums, dating from two weeks back, I never once wrote the word "boring". Not once. I used "dull" twice, and neither case in relation to Asylon. Stop saying everyone's out to get you. I don't give a !@#$ about you. You don't need to play victim all of the time.

You do not have to say directly when you imply with every thing that pours out of your mouth.

[Glaumring the Fox]

I haven't heard anyone say the war is boring. There's just no reason for it to continue. The objectives that Astrum had set forth have been met. Asylon met its objectives, too. So, why keep fighting?

It was directed at Chenier and the crap that comes out of his mouth.


What I find funny is how absolutely right I was about absolutely everything regarding the strategy and rise of Asylon in the west lands. And how absolutely stone dead wrong you have all been. So dont tell me to shut up, you are without ground to stand on.

[Chenier]

You do not have to say directly when you imply with every thing that pours out of your mouth.

Get a hold of yourself. Contrary to what you seem to believe, you and your realm don't cross my mind very often at all. I care so little about you and your realm, that I never even bothered to ask myself whether your war is an interesting war or not. I just don't give a !@#$ about it. And as such, I don't even speak about it. The only reason I brought it up that once was because someone was being a jerk and claiming I was just talking out of self-interest to promote my own realm, when I was merely making a list of realms at war and likely to remain at war for some time still. How on earth can I be "complaining" about something I don't give a damn about? About something I only briefly mentioned to counter an accusation of self-promotion? Had you guys said your plan was to conquer Golden Farrow, then yea, sure, I could have listed Asylon on my list of realms to join if one wants war. But that's not what you want: you've publicly stated that you were trying to get peace with all nations you are at war with. For whatever reason, you love war so much but you are so eager to end them before anything really comes out of them. And as such, I wouldn't recommend Asylon to anyone who is looking purely for war. Your wars may be fun, your realm may be fun, but the fact remains that your wars are few and short.

It was directed at Chenier and the crap that comes out of his mouth.

Except that Indirik is right: Not a single person has stated that your war is boring. The only one that's spewing !@#$ from his mouth is yourself.