LEAST favorite

[Miriam Ics]

Because SA is by definition unfun and anti-fun, obviously.

^This.

I find interesting how SA is so spread but is really not interesting. So far the only real interesting religion was the Golden Feather, when Silverhawk was around. Since he is gone, nothing happen.

[Gustav Kuriga]

^This.

I find interesting how SA is so spread but is really not interesting. So far the only real interesting religion was the Golden Feather, when Silverhawk was around. Since he is gone, nothing happen.

You do realize that the post you are quoting is being sarcastic, yes? And I'm sorry, but the only thing really holding SA together is the fact that the Prophet is still alive. If he were to die, everything changes. The entire Church would probably split into separate factions.

[LilWolf]

If you've been all around it, how can SA have prevented you from having any fun?

Seemed to do a good job of it in Astrum and Morek. The entire north of Dwilight has been locked in peace for lengthy times because of it (save for a few minor scuffles here and there).

The south has had other issues, mostly it's the crappy geography and how the realms shaped up.

[Vellos]

You do realize that the post you are quoting is being sarcastic, yes? And I'm sorry, but the only thing really holding SA together is the fact that the Prophet is still alive. If he were to die, everything changes. The entire Church would probably split into separate factions.

I think there's another thing holding the church together: the fact that being big is fun. I'd hate to see a formal game-mechanics schism, not because it'd weaken the church or my characters, but because it would make intrigues less worthwhile and take away one of the most fun political arenas in BM.

I understand SA can make Dwilight less fun for people more into the strategy side, and maybe for players on the periphery. But for those of us who really like the religious game, the scheming, the politics, the world-creation side, SA is one of the real highlights of BM.

[Velax]

Let's try to keep it at least vaguely on topic, please. Not every thread has to be about Dwilight.

[Vellos]

Let's try to keep it at least vaguely on topic, please. Not every thread has to be about Dwilight.

We're talking about why we like one continent more than another.

That's on topic.

[Velax]

No, you're defending SA after someone insulted it. That isn't the same.

[Gustav Kuriga]

No, you're defending SA after someone insulted it. That isn't the same.

It is when that's the reason why someone doesn't like the continent.

[Velax]

Arguable, but if it continues this way, it will turn into a thread about nothing but SA, like so many other threads before. It's like some BM-specific version of Godwin's Law. "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving SA or Aurvandil approaches 1."

Perhaps other people would like to talk about something else, rather than having the thread swamped by people who are insulted that anyone could possible dislike SA.

[Penchant]

Arguable, but if it continues this way, it will turn into a thread about nothing but SA, like so many other threads before. It's like some BM-specific version of Godwin's Law. "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving SA or Aurvandil approaches 1."

Perhaps other people would like to talk about something else, rather than having the thread swamped by people who are insulted that anyone could possible dislike SA.

Then talk about something else. Talking about whether or not SA adds to the game is better than no chat at all.

[BarticaBoat]

I've played Atamara, East Continent, Beluaterra, colonies and Dwilight.

Didn't play for too long on EC or BT but the colonies was actually a lot of fun and a far different pace. Really good roleplayers there and the story of the game felt cohesive. I love Atamara, everyone who complains that you can't intrigue or it's gridlocked or blah blah blah forgets that you can't just jump in and start playing whatever you want, there's an extremely long history to Atamara. In the past the roleplaying was better, but nowadays its kinda stale... overall though Atamara has been really fun to play.

Dwilight is my least favourite. It started off great, Everguard got destroyed, I got bummed out, but I didn't rage quit and I played out my character. Nothing. Has happened. At all. SA spreading? Neat. It's completely detrimental to the flow in Dwilight. You can't do anything because you're either of the same faith or someone will contrive a reason to bring down the might of the theocracies on you. There was a lot of potential for Dwilight but it has flopped. I am amazed that theocracies don't fight each other, medieval nobles were always striving for more power and to secure a greater legacy but apparently everyone on Dwilight wants to have a tea party instead of roleplaying medieval nobility.

Dwilight feels like a tea party where we praise the stars and bow curtly to each other. The moment you try to drink your sugar with coffee and cream you're told that's inappropriate and forced to get a black tea instead. And the problem is it has attracted everyone in the game who wants to play tea party, the nonspeakers who don't do anything won't change the status quo, and everyone else is far too content to say "greetings and salutations brother!"

Medieval nobles were only concerned with gaining more power. Anyone who was stagnant found their wine poisoned and titles stolen.

[Miriam Ics]

I think we cannot try to stay strict on topic when we are at BM General Talk.  It is general, it will lead to one or other subject and we will discuss many things in the process. SA is a good discussion. Of course we know who will defend it, but we can be surprised at who will disagree.
Disagreements is what makes the world go around, not money. And its good.

[Miriam Ics]

I like your post BarticaBoat.
I never was in Atamara but Tali always told me how good it was. Tali and a few others...

[vonGenf]

You can't do anything because you're either of the same faith or someone will contrive a reason to bring down the might of the theocracies on you. (...)

Medieval nobles were only concerned with gaining more power. Anyone who was stagnant found their wine poisoned and titles stolen.

So, I understand your point is that there is a set of character who are not interested in gaining power, which is wrong, and that this set of characters is too powerful?

Gee, I wonder where they got all that power they didn't seek.

[Perth]

Dwilight is my all time favorite.

I have a love/hate relationship with Atamara. The continent is dumb most of the time, but it was my first BM love.