101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation

[pcw27]

But wars of words are so much safer!

I wouldn't be so sure. Those can also end with you dead.

[Tandaros]

I wouldn't be so sure. Those can also end with you dead.

Some of the statements I've seen in SA have blown my mind, but not so badly to make my head literally explode. 

[Vellos]

Uh... what? So I'm only allowed to be upset about SA if I'm a member of it? That's ridiculous.

Also, I can only "play the game" so to speak with SA if I'm a member of it? Nonsense.

Kale has many influences and connections in SA. He did play the game. Just because he "lost" doesn't mean he didn't "play the game."

Bro.

You ain't playin' until you're on the court. Kale hasn't even put on his shorts yet in terms of SA politics. And his Phantarian and Farronite allies in the church just weaken his position anymore. Calling for the resignation of a sitting (and quite popular and powerful) Regent due to his fulfillment of oaths to one of the most respected institutions of the church is way silly.

[Gustav Kuriga]

Bro.

You ain't playin' until you're on the court. Kale hasn't even put on his shorts yet in terms of SA politics. And his Phantarian and Farronite allies in the church just weaken his position anymore. Calling for the resignation of a sitting (and quite popular and powerful) Regent due to his fulfillment of oaths to one of the most respected institutions of the church is way silly.

Hah, Vellos, it is good to see you are still confident. Just because you do not hear the outrage from everyone doesn't mean others aren't allied with us.

[Perth]

Bro.

You ain't playin' until you're on the court. Kale hasn't even put on his shorts yet in terms of SA politics. And his Phantarian and Farronite allies in the church just weaken his position anymore. Calling for the resignation of a sitting (and quite popular and powerful) Regent due to his fulfillment of oaths to one of the most respected institutions of the church is way silly.

I'm not saying Kale's a power player. Obviously he isn't, he isn't in SA. I was just objecting to Generous telling me that 1) I didn't "even try" and 2) because I didn't try I couldn't "complain."

Kale tried. Kale does have allies and friends. And the issue is very split. A lot of important people disagree with the Crusade. Obviously, he doesn't have Hireshmont's influence. But Kale tried, that was my point.

As for calling for the Regent's resignation, I was unaware of that and didn't have anything to do with it.

[Vellos]

Hah, Vellos, it is good to see you are still confident. Just because you do not hear the outrage from everyone doesn't mean others aren't allied with us.

oh noes a Niselur-Asylon-FR-Phantaria alliance! Me is petrified!

[Perth]

oh noes a Niselur-Asylon-FR-Phantaria alliance! Me is petrified!

That would actually be a pretty nice war. Nisular, Asylon, FR, Phantaria, Libero vs. Astrum, Morek, Corsanctum, D'Hara, Swordfell (?)

[Gustav Kuriga]

That would actually be a pretty nice war. Nisular, Asylon, FR, Phantaria, Libero vs. Astrum, Morek, Corsanctum, D'Hara, Swordfell (?)

I'm pretty sure D'Hara would fall on the other side of that equation.

[Chenier]

I'm pretty sure D'Hara would fall on the other side of that equation.

I'm pretty sure we'd just sit by and watch, cheering for both sides... I wouldn't see Swordfell jumping in on such a war either. Heck, I don't really see such a war happening at all.

[Indirik]

If you knew what was really happening, you would be more concerned.

[Zakilevo]

D'Hara will fall under Morek-Astrum-etc. LN will probably join the side D'Hara isn't on.

[Indirik]

D'Hara will be too busy to pick sides.

[Chenier]

If you knew what was really happening, you would be more concerned.

I know there's !@#$ brewing, but I think you underestimate the power of the peacemongers.

And why on earth would D'Hara care to join any of these two sides? We've got plenty of enemies to worry about without stuffing our noses in the north's affairs.

D'Hara will be too busy to pick sides.

Indeed.

[Meneldur]

D'Hara will be too busy to pick sides.

I do hope so- without a war against LN to distract him I have a funny feeling that Rynn would probably ride out to defend his one true love and drag the rest of D'Hara kicking and screaming with him.

[Chenier]

I do hope so- without a war against LN to distract him I have a funny feeling that Rynn would probably ride out to defend his one true love and drag the rest of D'Hara kicking and screaming with him.

Even if he wanted to, I doubt he could pull anyone to FR's "help" (I don't see them being under any threat). Not while Saffalore, Falkirk, and Aurvandil remain, at least.