101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation

[pcw27]

Since there's been so much lamentation, here are some ideas to make the north a little less peaceful.

1. Jack up your taxes until a duchy secedes.
2. Secede a duchy anyway, make up a reason. Maybe you consider the Northern Isle "The True Astrum" and all those chumps to the north are freeloading immigrants leaching off of your sacrifices.
3. Create a secret anti-astroist society and build up power then start a rebellion.
4. Start a rebellion for some other reason. Remember those taxes I was talking about?
5. Get into a fight over who gets to make Libero Empire their vassal state.
6. Get into a fight over who gets the mountain range between Niselur and Astrum. Remember there's been talk of making mountains more valuable as a source of resources.

[Wolfsong]

7. War of Flowers: Church-sanctioned wars between SA members - terms decided beforehand - loser pays winner x amount. Like tournaments, but with more peasant death.

[Perth]

What happened to the Astrum v. Morek dichotomy? Why don't those two fight? Would be epic.

[Indirik]

Astrum and Morek have no reason to fight. Their one-time rulers, Brance and Bustoarsenzio, were close friends. There was really only one incident, many years ago, that saw Morek and Astrum at odds.

[Perth]

Astrum and Morek have no reason to fight. Their one-time rulers, Brance and Bustoarsenzio, were close friends. There was really only one incident, many years ago, that saw Morek and Astrum at odds.

Bummer.

[pcw27]

7. War of Flowers: Church-sanctioned wars between SA members - terms decided beforehand - loser pays winner x amount. Like tournaments, but with more peasant death.

I've thought of that I'm not sure if anyone would go for it.

It could be accomplished by just setting troops on murderous so that wouldn't necessarily require a war. Although claims of cheating in these grand melees might be cause to start one.

[Feylonis]

Start a fundamentalist movement and antagonize the moderates.

[Gustav Kuriga]

Start a fundamentalist movement and antagonize the moderates.

What do you think is happening now? >_<

[Wolfsong]

I've thought of that I'm not sure if anyone would go for it.

It could be accomplished by just setting troops on murderous so that wouldn't necessarily require a war. Although claims of cheating in these grand melees might be cause to start one.

It's something I've always wanted to do - get a few single duchy kingdoms in a small area, and have them just war each other symbolically. Or, you know, since I mentioned War of the Flowers... How !@#$ing epic would it be to get an Aztec-inspired society-religion (but updated to a more medieval mindset) that overlaps the tiny kingdoms? Symbolic wars, where captured nobles are executed to feed a god of renewal and blood.

[Chenier]

It's something I've always wanted to do - get a few single duchy kingdoms in a small area, and have them just war each other symbolically. Or, you know, since I mentioned War of the Flowers... How !@#$ing epic would it be to get an Aztec-inspired society-religion (but updated to a more medieval mindset) that overlaps the tiny kingdoms? Symbolic wars, where captured nobles are executed to feed a god of renewal and blood.

Wrong continent, wrong time. ;)

[Chenier]

What do you think is happening now? >_<

Also, this is quite true.

[Wolfsong]

Wrong continent, wrong time. ;)

Not at all - you can take Aztec symbolism and ideas and easily slot them into a feudal society. In fact, I'd argue they work better than some of the religions already floating about Dwilight.

[Perth]

Not at all - you can take Aztec symbolism and ideas and easily slot them into a feudal society. In fact, I'd argue they work better than some of the religions already floating about Dwilight.

He was referencing the pseudo-Aztec religion he made on Belu. Cult of Blood or something other, I think?

[Anaris]

Not at all - you can take Aztec symbolism and ideas and easily slot them into a feudal society. In fact, I'd argue they work better than some of the religions already floating about Dwilight.

This is absolutely correct.

If Chénier hadn't insisted on the Aztec-inspired naming and such, I honestly don't see any good reason why his original Blood Cult ideas wouldn't have fit Dwilight just fine. From what I can remember of the basic principles, they were pretty abhorrent to modern Westerners, but would be relatively reasonable to a medieval non-Abrahamic society.

[Chenier]

He was referencing the pseudo-Aztec religion he made on Belu. Cult of Blood or something other, I think?

Yes, the Blood Cult on Beluaterra.

This is absolutely correct.

If Chénier hadn't insisted on the Aztec-inspired naming and such, I honestly don't see any good reason why his original Blood Cult ideas wouldn't have fit Dwilight just fine. From what I can remember of the basic principles, they were pretty abhorrent to modern Westerners, but would be relatively reasonable to a medieval non-Abrahamic society.

Because Tom said he didn't want non-european-inspired religions and concepts on Dwi. If it was just the names, then sure, they could have been changed. That was never the issue, though, as far as I ever was made aware. Medieval abrahamic societies was precisely what he wanted.