Number of Players Lost Since Glacier?

[Chenier]

Asylonians went for Corsanctum. Why would they care about you guys attacking Fissona? Lurians were too busy getting owned by monsters and starvation. Barca's incompetent leadership brought this whole failure on themselves. They obviously lacked goals and plans for their little campaign. You don't attack a realm that large without any insurance which Barca thought they had. Why would Barca's allies even help Barca when they could just wait for Barca's armies to get wiped out and absorb their nobles as their own?

Both Fissoa and D'Hara were overrun with rogues. Not to mention the huge monster force that was waiting out in the desert, blocking out the land path East. The monster forces on the Madinian isle were ridiculous, too.

Everyone was too busy getting owned by monsters and starvation. The same monsters plaguing Luria were also standing in the way of Barcan forces and of allied reinforcements.

[Zakilevo]

And Barcans thought their allies could help. See? More signs of incompetent leadership. They didn't even know their allies were in no shape to help them.

[Lychaon]

And Barcans thought their allies could help. See? More signs of incompetent leadership. They didn't even know their allies were in no shape to help them.

I hope Lurian leaders won't disappoint you that bad, it almost looks as if Barcan "incompetent leadership" has forced you to join our enemy.

Moreover, what else could have been done? If we delayed the departure from Barca, monsters there and wearing would have diminished our forces. We thought our allies would have been ready for our arrival, but it's clear now they weren't.

[Chenier]

And Barcans thought their allies could help. See? More signs of incompetent leadership. They didn't even know their allies were in no shape to help them.

Same kind of incompetence that led Luria to implode on itself, I guess.

[Anaris]

Same kind of incompetence that led Luria to implode on itself, I guess.

Several times! ;D

[D`Este]

I think the problem with Luria was more the ambition of it's nobles and the will to do something rather than incompetence.

[Zakilevo]

I only joined Luria to avoid rogues. It is nice to get a free pass through Luria :)

I am on my way to Swordfell. If you want you can join me Lychaon >:D

[Wolfang]

Asylonians went for Corsanctum. Why would they care about you guys attacking Fissona? Lurians were too busy getting owned by monsters and starvation. Barca's incompetent leadership brought this whole failure on themselves. They obviously lacked goals and plans for their little campaign. You don't attack a realm that large without any insurance which Barca thought they had. Why would Barca's allies even help Barca when they could just wait for Barca's armies to get wiped out and absorb their nobles as their own?

'S what my char's been preaching since the very beginning (when we were still in the motherland) yet few listened. To be honest I just blame our allies, our leadership made errors, such as not knowing that doing a takeover stopped the enemies from using fortifications, but these are the things that newer players don't know and is simply gamey, and the other mistake of relying on our allies. We waited for ages in Barca and then in Fissoa and then pillaged half of Luria and still no help came. Seems like our leadership just thought 'well !@#$ that let's have a big last battle then', by which time only 1 allied noble had reached us, one. Let's be honest, even 'Barcan incompetent leadership' at least managed to march 70% of the nobles from one region to another in cohesion, not in tiny trickles of twos and threes.

We could've completely crushed Luria if we had received even the slightest of help. edit: before we were destroyed

[Zakilevo]

think it was a good lesson for newer players. But Galvez isn't new!

Isn't Barca's general a new guy as well?

I had my fair share of defeats and failures. But if you stay long enough, you learn enough to win more :)

[Wolfang]

Yes, I'm happy to have learned that, and have looked through your guide on the wiki, yet this seems an extremely important piece of information which is certainly not 'obvious'.

[Zakilevo]

oh my guide. I haven't had time to put everything. I should have time to update it after my exams :o

I learned it the hard way and it seems Barca is too.

[Wolfsong]

Ironically, the Southern League had assembled (Fissoa, at least) a large force with the express purpose of invading Luria Nova before the whole monsters thing happened... And then, conveniently for Luria Nova, so many rogue forces popped up on the Madinan Isle, and all across Fissoa, that our army was whittled back down to nothing and overextended trying to defend against 10-20k of CS of monsters in single regions, each turn, every turn. On top of that, Barca was decimated. After that, every time Fissoa pledged to defend Barca, another 25k CS of monsters would crop up somewhere, making it absolutely impossible to even think about moving offensively into Luria Nova... and then when we finally do pledge a force to go help them no matter what, over 40k CS of monsters rolls into Candiels.

[Gustav Kuriga]

Ironically, the Southern League had assembled (Fissoa, at least) a large force with the express purpose of invading Luria Nova before the whole monsters thing happened... And then, conveniently for Luria Nova, so many rogue forces popped up on the Madinan Isle, and all across Fissoa, that our army was whittled back down to nothing and overextended trying to defend against 10-20k of CS of monsters in single regions, each turn, every turn. On top of that, Barca was decimated. After that, every time Fissoa pledged to defend Barca, another 25k CS of monsters would crop up somewhere, making it absolutely impossible to even think about moving offensively into Luria Nova... and then when we finally do pledge a force to go help them no matter what, over 40k CS of monsters rolls into Candiels.

Yep. Bull!@#$ like this really ruins it for me. I'm pausing my character and putting my account on hiatus.

[Zakilevo]

Yep. Bull!@#$ like this really ruins it for me. I'm pausing my character and putting my account on hiatus.

Again?  :o

[Penchant]

'S what my char's been preaching since the very beginning (when we were still in the motherland) yet few listened. To be honest I just blame our allies, our leadership made errors, such as not knowing that doing a takeover stopped the enemies from using fortifications, but these are the things that newer players don't know and is simply gamey, and the other mistake of relying on our allies. We waited for ages in Barca and then in Fissoa and then pillaged half of Luria and still no help came. Seems like our leadership just thought 'well !@#$ that let's have a big last battle then', by which time only 1 allied noble had reached us, one. Let's be honest, even 'Barcan incompetent leadership' at least managed to march 70% of the nobles from one region to another in cohesion, not in tiny trickles of twos and threes.

We could've completely crushed Luria if we had received even the slightest of help. edit: before we were destroyed

Well obviously Barca sucks. Their nobles have no loyalty, no trust in their allies, and don't like to communicate but then complain that their allies didn't magically arrive right when Barca did.