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priest arrested by rogue?

Started by dustole, May 18, 2014, 01:46:50 PM

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Zakilevo

Quote from: Anaris on May 20, 2014, 09:54:27 PM
Well, I suppose you could just sit there at that screen forever...

So you have an option to be... UNTOUCHABLE!

Anaris

Quote from: Lapallanch on May 20, 2014, 10:00:40 PM
So you have an option to be... UNTOUCHABLE!

And really, really bored.
Timothy Collett

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Chenier

So if your realm loses its capital to an enemy, until it moves its capital elsewhere, all nobles released from prison will be forced to choose another realm and not be able to continue playing until doing so?
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Anaris

Quote from: Chénier on May 21, 2014, 02:11:02 AM
So if your realm loses its capital to an enemy, until it moves its capital elsewhere, all nobles released from prison will be forced to choose another realm and not be able to continue playing until doing so?

That is correct.

This should only be live on testing, and if it turns out to be a serious problem, I can limit the effect to capitals in the monster-claimed lands. However, I think it's worth testing out.
Timothy Collett

"The only thing you can't trade for your heart's desire...is your heart." "You are what you do.  Choose again, and change." "One of these days, someone's gonna plug you, and you're going to die saying, 'What did I say? What did I say?'"  ~ Miles Naismith Vorkosigan

Indirik

Hrrrmm. That seems harsh. Losing your capital is already tough. This pretty much makes it a death sentence. You lost your capital, now you lose all your nobles.
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Chamberlain

Quote from: Penchant on May 20, 2014, 09:42:21 PM
You mean the one trapped in the west? Phantaria's capital is in the west so he must try to rush his way to the east coast and then set sail without being captured again.

Completely off point, but has someone re-established Phantaria?

Wolfang

Sounds like a legit new tactic. Go for the capital and then release all the prisoners you capture before a new capital is made. At one point half of Barca was in prison, if we'd lost Rettleville to monsters at the time we would have been so f*cked.

Anaris

Quote from: Wolfang on May 21, 2014, 04:13:30 PM
Sounds like a legit new tactic. Go for the capital and then release all the prisoners you capture before a new capital is made. At one point half of Barca was in prison, if we'd lost Rettleville to monsters at the time we would have been so f*cked.

Generally, the prisoners you take in the battles to get control of a capital will be released before you can finish a TO of it.

And you can't even start a TO of a capital unless you already have a border with it (or, on islands with sea zones, if it and your realm both have seacoasts).
Timothy Collett

"The only thing you can't trade for your heart's desire...is your heart." "You are what you do.  Choose again, and change." "One of these days, someone's gonna plug you, and you're going to die saying, 'What did I say? What did I say?'"  ~ Miles Naismith Vorkosigan

Wolfang

But I guess we were lucky Rettleville didn't fall just then  :P

Anaris

Quote from: Wolfang on May 21, 2014, 04:16:49 PM
But I guess we were lucky Rettleville didn't fall just then  :P

Well, since I only implemented the change within the past 2 weeks, I doubt it would have made a huge difference ;D
Timothy Collett

"The only thing you can't trade for your heart's desire...is your heart." "You are what you do.  Choose again, and change." "One of these days, someone's gonna plug you, and you're going to die saying, 'What did I say? What did I say?'"  ~ Miles Naismith Vorkosigan

Tandaros

Quote from: Anaris on May 21, 2014, 04:15:09 PM
Generally, the prisoners you take in the battles to get control of a capital will be released before you can finish a TO of it.

And you can't even start a TO of a capital unless you already have a border with it (or, on islands with sea zones, if it and your realm both have seacoasts).

Seems like this could be easily exploited. The odd exception to this generalization won't be a small misstep - it will be the doom of a realm. Doesn't seem fair to whoever that realm ends up being.
On the other hand, maybe it will help 'finish off' the dead realms like Niselur and Phantaria.

Anaris

Quote from: Tandaros on May 21, 2014, 08:09:44 PM
Seems like this could be easily exploited. The odd exception to this generalization won't be a small misstep - it will be the doom of a realm. Doesn't seem fair to whoever that realm ends up being.

As I said, I plan on keeping an eye on this and changing it if it does turn out to be a serious problem.

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On the other hand, maybe it will help 'finish off' the dead realms like Niselur and Phantaria.

That's part of the point: to make sure that the realms based in the west of Dwilight don't stay based in the west, whether or not they actually survive. (And to make sure that anyone who's a member of one of those realms doesn't end up getting stuck in the west due to an endless cycle of capture and return to capital.)
Timothy Collett

"The only thing you can't trade for your heart's desire...is your heart." "You are what you do.  Choose again, and change." "One of these days, someone's gonna plug you, and you're going to die saying, 'What did I say? What did I say?'"  ~ Miles Naismith Vorkosigan

Chenier

Why not give these players the choice: return to the old capital and risk capture, or choose a new realm?

The chance of capture by rogues should be enough to deter people from trying to hide there to escape player realms. No need to try to force people out of viable realms.
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Vellos

Quote from: Anaris on May 20, 2014, 09:48:10 PM
Actually, I put an exception in for this kind of case.

When you're released from prison and your realm does not control its capital, you will be treated the same as a rogue who is released from prison, and get to choose a new realm to join.

This will also act as an extra incentive not to lose your capital in war.

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You deprive the Emperor of the Occidens of land and title most unjustly!

There is a capital of the Empire of the Occidens: Dragon's Reach, the ancestral home of House Vellos!
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