Abused of surrender mechanic

[NireusD.Natalle]

Region Leaves Realm   (12 hours, 10 minutes ago)
    message to all nobles of Fronen
    Loki Erickson has changed the allegiance of Tor to the duchy of the Western Front, a part of the realm of Old Grehk. He and his knights and their units have left your realm.
    [protest options]

    Region Changes Allegiance   (12 hours, 10 minutes ago)
    message to Everyone on Beluaterra
    Tor has changed its allegiance to the realm of Old Grehk. The region used to belong to Fronen.

    Region Surrenders to Takeover   (12 hours, 18 minutes ago)
    message to all nobles of Fronen
    Seeing the wisdom in surrendering to your takeover, Loki Erickson has surrendered Tor to the duchy of Vur Hagin, a part of your realm. The region used to be a part of Old Grehk.
    Together with the lord, the following knights joined your realm: Loki Erickson.
    [protest options]

    Region Surrenders to Takeover   (12 hours, 18 minutes ago)
    message to Everyone on Beluaterra
    Tor has surrendered to the realm of Fronen after Fronen started a takeover of the region. The region used to belong to Old Grehk.

    Regional Events in Tor   (4 hours, 41 minutes ago)
    message to everyone in Tor
    The takeover is still proceeding.
    The locals don't seem to fear Fronen as much as before now.
    The peasants seem somewhat more sympathetic towards Fronen.
    Fronen now has completed about 86% of the required progress for a successful sympathy takeover.

The player in question abused the surrender mechanic to transfer the region to Fronen so that the TO ends. Moments later he transfers it back to OG thus using this to specifically cause our TO to end. Now we have to start the TO from the beginning. This is specifically against the fair play rule of the social contract and we have suffered a significant loss of both time and effort due to this player. I'll be here if you need anymore information and waiting for your verdict.

I've contacted the titans so please don't double report unless it is absolutely necessary. Lets see what they'll do!

Out-of-Character from Elicia Windblack
Message sent to everyone in your realm (15 recipients)

My report have been rejected so can anyone else try to report the player of Loki Erickson? I don't want to get punished myself for bugging the Titans multiple times over the same issue.

Any explanation?

[Anaris]

The Titans are presently investigating the report. Windblack's report was rejected in error; the Titans only intended to send a message to the player.

[Cren]

The Titans are presently investigating the report. Windblack's report was rejected in error; the Titans only intended to send a message to the player.

Thanks a lot! I was really surprised when I saw the report have been rejected and that I have threatened the player. I have only informed the rulers and my ream mates that I have reported this to the Titans. I also asked Indirik beforehand if reporting a suspected player to the Titans is cool or not.

[Indirik]

Regarding Titans reports:

Don't threaten to report people to the Titans. Either report them, or don't report them.

If you do report them, then send the report and let the issue drop. Saying things like: "I am reporting you/them" or "I have reported you/them" are usually considered bad form. You're basically telling everyone that you think that person is a cheater/abuser. That kind of breaks the "no accusations" rule.

I'm not saying you did any of these things. Just providing some general observations.

[Cren]

Regarding Titans reports:

Don't threaten to report people to the Titans. Either report them, or don't report them.

If you do report them, then send the report and let the issue drop. Saying things like: "I am reporting you/them" or "I have reported you/them" are usually considered bad form. You're basically telling everyone that you think that person is a cheater/abuser. That kind of breaks the "no accusations" rule.

I'm not saying you did any of these things. Just providing some general observations.

Hmmm... So that is where I made the mistake. I'll keep that in mind if I've to report anything in future. :)

[Noldorin]

I'm not saying you did any of these things. Just providing some general observations.

Well it was done, quite expressively. I would however say that much worse than so, is the:

"My report have been rejected so can anyone else try to report the player of Loki Erickson? I don't want to get punished myself for bugging the Titans multiple times over the same issue."

While talking about reporting someone to the titans is bad, requesting that others do it ought to be much worse.

[Indirik]

So, if you think that's against the rules, report it.

[Cren]

Well it was done, quite expressively. I would however say that much worse than so, is the:

"My report have been rejected so can anyone else try to report the player of Loki Erickson? I don't want to get punished myself for bugging the Titans multiple times over the same issue."

While talking about reporting someone to the titans is bad, requesting that others do it ought to be much worse.

This letter was sent to the nobles of Fronen since many were in the favour of reporting the player to the Titans. Since it affected my entire realm and as the ruler it is my responsibility to report something suspicious. Since it is a realm wide issue, my realm mates should have a say in that matter.

[Marlboro]

This letter was sent to the nobles of Fronen since many were in the favour of reporting the player to the Titans. Since it affected my entire realm and as the ruler it is my responsibility to report something suspicious. Since it is a realm wide issue, my realm mates should have a say in that matter.

That's not really how it works either. Don't gather a lynch mob, just report directly to the Titans.

[Penchant]

That's not really how it works either. Don't gather a lynch mob, just report directly to the Titans.

Exactly, and if the rest of the realm agreed, they would be sending their own reports without him telling them to.

[Cren]

Since I haven't heard anything from the Titans yet, can you please let me know what is the stance in this matter? Thank you!

[Anaris]

Since I haven't heard anything from the Titans yet, can you please let me know what is the stance in this matter? Thank you!

Bug exploit. Fixed now.

[Disturbedyang]

Bug exploit. Fixed now.

So, won't the player get punished or the region gets taken or something? Just like that? Hmmm. I actually saw it used frequently in a lot of other continent, mostly they just switched to the realm taking over or their ally. It has happened in the war island, the far east etc, but we all thought that's part of the strategy.

[Anaris]

So, won't the player get punished or the region gets taken or something? Just like that? Hmmm. I actually saw it used frequently in a lot of other continent, mostly they just switched to the realm taking over or their ally. It has happened in the war island, the far east etc, but we all thought that's part of the strategy.

There is still a Titan case open, I believe.

[vonGenf]

So, won't the player get punished or the region gets taken or something? Just like that? Hmmm. I actually saw it used frequently in a lot of other continent, mostly they just switched to the realm taking over or their ally. It has happened in the war island, the far east etc, but we all thought that's part of the strategy.

Switching to the realm currently taking over is ok, it's called surrendering. It's the immediate switching back and forth which was an issue.