Trenton

[Vita`]

Let's make something good out of a bad beginning. Rather than let Trenton fall back into the same situation of IVF surrounded by overly large neighbours, I thought I'd try to promote a smaller conflict of non-annihilation between Trenton and IVF vaguely akin to what Vix & Perdan are doing on EI. I sent an OOC to JeVondair already, but I am on a vacation of sorts this weekend so wont be as talkative until Monday or Tuesday for working out further details.

So far IVF has much fewer regions, but more nobles while Trenton has many more regions with fewer nobles. I don't want to hold every council position, so there's three open council positions, two duchies, and plenty of lordships for the ambitious. My particular character can be rather critical of others too, so there's opportunity for internal conflict and I am open to sharing the cultural setup JeVondair wanted for IVF, via two realms so we can have the occasional battle and looting as part of jockeying. I plan to rename the Vale duchy of Trenton the Ebony Vale as a counterpart to the Ivory Vale.

Hopefully Riombara doesn't crush us. :P Maybe they'll see smaller realms are the happening thing and some duchies will split off. ;)

[Chamberlain]

The difference being EI was growing stagnant without war while Beluaterra is in a total continental war.

You can't really compare the 2.

[JeVondair]

I actually welcome this. It sucks how Trenton got created, bull!@#$ really, but I'm glad a responsible player is trying to make something out of it. In fact, after Rynn died, this is exactly what I needed. And I wonder how your girl is going to respond to Selenia''s ultimatum...

[Fleugs]

Vita doesn't play girls. He plays snoo-snoo women!

[Vita`]

The difference being EI was growing stagnant without war while Beluaterra is in a total continental war.

You can't really compare the 2.

Yes, but a large portion of Beluaterra, even the more active participants, have to march much longer to *get* to the war. One thing I've learned with EI and DWI wars is that the enjoyment is much more intense the closer the refits are. The longer you march, the more bored most non-upper-echelon players get and emigrations and autopauses become greater. So yes, the two are comparable.

[Zakilevo]

More reasons to sink BT.

[De-Legro]

More reasons to sink BT.

Sink one of the few islands with large scale war?

[Zakilevo]

Sink one of the few islands with large scale war?

No. Sinking one of the most crippled islands.

[De-Legro]

No. Sinking one of the most crippled islands.

Yet is actually manages to generate fun. It is only "crippled" due to the trend towards massive realms in the south. Some smaller realms down there allows for localised wars. The reality is that Islands can never be "perfect" in design, since the geo-graphical location of realms is fluid.

[Constantine]

It's not that they are massive. It's that ridiculous peninsula that ruins the entire continent.

[De-Legro]

It's not that they are massive. It's that ridiculous peninsula that ruins the entire continent.

Yet the continent out performs less "broken" layouts, so perhaps the issue is not really that large.

[Constantine]

Yes, everything north of Trenton is fine.
That peninsula is just cancer though.

[Naidraug]

It would be interesting if Riombara would break into 2 more realms.

With it's 6 cities it could easily do that.

The north now is a little more active, but it would be nice to have more realms there too.

[Indirik]

BT is a weird beast. Despite the ridiculously low player count, most of the players there are quite content. And it always seems to generate a lot of war.

[Antonine]

It would be interesting if Riombara would break into 2 more realms.

With it's 6 cities it could easily do that.

The north now is a little more active, but it would be nice to have more realms there too.

The problem is that the geography of Riombara means that one realm in that area will always eventually come out on top over any others and become Riombara shaped. So it's a self perpetuating problem.