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End of Morek Empire

Started by Zakilevo, June 08, 2015, 09:12:40 AM

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De-Legro

Quote from: Constantine on June 09, 2015, 12:06:02 PM
On the contrary, supporting Fissoa in these last weeks was more important for D'Hara than it ever had been before.
Failing to do so and letting Fissoa fall on its own is very bad news for D'Hara if you know what I mean.

That a) assumes the help we could provide would prevent Fissoa's death
        b) assumes we didn't know that Fissoa is seeking peace with Luria independent of the alliance
        c) assumes that D'Hara hasn't been working on a strategy for the eventual demise of Fissoa.
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Fleugs

With Morek's demise the North looks a lot more interesting. As a Lurian I enjoy the dismantling of the League in such a chaotic matter, too.
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Constantine

a) It actually could. We wouldn't lose Fissoa Fields and a few other regions if we had just 10k more CS.
b) Confusing cause and effect here, not sure if on purpose. D'Haran betrayal basically pushed some nobles to seek separate peace. Still it is not a prevalent sentiment.
c) Okay. That should have been point a) and there was no real need in other ones, you Machiavellian jerks. :P

De-Legro

Quote from: Constantine on June 09, 2015, 01:03:52 PM
a) It actually could. We wouldn't lose Fissoa Fields and a few other regions if we had just 10k more CS.
b) Confusing cause and effect here, not sure if on purpose. D'Haran betrayal basically pushed some nobles to seek separate peace. Still it is not a prevalent sentiment.
c) Okay. That should have been point a) and there was no real need in other ones, you Machiavellian jerks. :P

And last time we sent 10k of extra CS, we moved when Fissoa told us do, only to find they didn't. Like I said it assumes we could have prevented Fissoa's demise. Even if we prevented this assault, D'Hara can not refit fast enough to continually protect you from Luria, and Fissoa  has shown no signs of adequate recovery of their own military power.

As for B, your King instructed us several battles ago NOT to push into Lurian territory because he was hopeful of Luria entering a ceasefire agreement once they reclaimed their lands. Fissoa has been skirting with peace with Luria in several incarnations for some time now, the most recent is simply their most desperate and thus most likely to yield a result.
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Constantine

Quote from: De-Legro on June 09, 2015, 01:10:53 PM
And last time we sent 10k of extra CS, we moved when Fissoa told us do, only to find they didn't. Like I said it assumes we could have prevented Fissoa's demise. Even if we prevented this assault, D'Hara can not refit fast enough to continually protect you from Luria, and Fissoa  has shown no signs of adequate recovery of their own military power.
Oh, that's not really true. D'Hara moved a bit earlier than they should have.
And yes, we pretty much recovered our strength by now to the level when we could match the Lurian host with some extra help.
Quote from: De-Legro on June 09, 2015, 01:10:53 PM
As for B, your King instructed us several battles ago NOT to push into Lurian territory because he was hopeful of Luria entering a ceasefire agreement once they reclaimed their lands. Fissoa has been skirting with peace with Luria in several incarnations for some time now, the most recent is simply their most desperate and thus most likely to yield a result.
Oh, come on. That was like half a year ago when a massive chunk of our core player quit the game and we just needed a breather. That ceasefire was null and void in like two weeks after that and there were no plans for new ones.

So yeah... Nice try at anti-Fissoan propaganda.
Jesus, this all sounds so familiar. It's like I'm watching telly. :D

De-Legro

Quote from: Constantine on June 09, 2015, 01:19:38 PM
Oh, that's not really true. D'Hara moved a bit earlier than they should have.
And yes, we pretty much recovered our strength by now to the level when we could match the Lurian host with some extra help.Oh, come on. That was like half a year ago when a massive chunk of our core player quit the game and we just needed a breather. That ceasefire was null and void in like two weeks after that and there were no plans for new ones.

So yeah... Nice try at anti-Fissoan propaganda.
Jesus, this all sounds so familiar. It's like I'm watching telly. :D

So far as D'Hara was told there never was ceasefire agreed, this was much more recently then half a year ago, since it was 2 expeditions before our last one. We had only just started to internally discuss that the King was kidding himself to believe Luria would honour any ceasefire even if they did offer one, when we were again called upon for aid. Perhaps you simply are not as well informed as you would like to believe about the messages between the realms. Our current PM nicely posts a good deal of the rulers chat for us, and our last general for all his faults was very good about posting info from other generals.

Fissoa so far as I can see can match Luria with help, only with the aid of walls. Given the travel time for D'Hara, the likelyhood that we will receive a plea for help, mobilise and arrive in time to defend walled regions with anything close to consistency is a fantasy.
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Constantine

Long time no news from Morek. Are you people falling asleep again?  :P

Indirik

Well, there are only, like, three of us left in Morek. Did you really think there would be lots of news?

I think that new northern realm (Arnor?) wants to attack us. And that Helwyg place has a demanded we give them some land.
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Let slip the dogs of war...  8)
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