Retention Revisited

[Chenier]

You didn't read my post well enough. If you fought them to stave off TMP, your realm either isn't at war or is not fighting a very active one. One of the times I said you would fight undead or monsters... you just proved my point without even meaning to.

That's one of three reasons.

And in cases of TMP, that doesn't mean there isn't any opportunity to go fight more if you wish, but sometimes just lack of directives to do so. In these realms (D'Hara), no one would complain if you went out on your own or with a buddy or two to go fight rogues wherever you can find them.

[Kai]

You have to count battles with undead, though, as they do represent a good chunk of the fighting.

I agree that a 20000CS army moving on a 500CS rogue force might not be exciting, however.

NPC battles are never exciting.

[Gustav Kuriga]

NPC battles are never exciting.

Exactly. More like grunt work.

[Chenier]

Exactly. More like grunt work.

Why? It's not as if PC armies were always that smart...

[Arundel]

Why? It's not as if PC armies were always that smart...

Feeling of superiority over PC armies? Difference between winning at checkers v.s the computer or the friend.

[Chenier]

Feeling of superiority over PC armies? Difference between winning at checkers v.s the computer or the friend.

The computer is often smarter than the friend?

[Arundel]

The computer is often smarter than the friend?

The computer doesn't get angry/upset when defeated? Inflicting emotions?

[Vellos]

The computer doesn't get angry/upset when defeated? Inflicting emotions?

/schadenfreude

[Kai]

The computer is often smarter than the friend?

Playing the computer is obviously not the same as playing a person.

[Norrel]

Grinding through mobs is just that, grinding. PvP interaction actually has some meaning.

[Arundel]

/schadenfreude

Exactly :).

[Kai]

And the computer is smarter than almost every player in the world in chess, I suppose therefore no tournaments actually need to be run.

[Fleugs]

First a question: do we want to make a separate thread where we try to figure out why new players don't join the game/how we can improve the rate of them staying?

Then, I'd like to share this:

Out-of-Character from New Player   (2 days ago)
Hello!

You are right about what I don't understand about the game ... Next to everything. Although the wiki and just clicking through helped a little. (Like giving the advice of becoming a student.)

The game explains very few, which is a little disappointing. I was hoping for a tutorial. But well.

So ... I can send a message to the realm. Is it then like ... Like a message you just wrote me? Everyone gets notified?
And ... What's also very important. I noticed the message types. What should I use when? (Like in one of those cases; Introducing, asking for an oath.)
I know, that new players can get quite annoying, but I ask to excuse this.

I answered him right away but he hasn't replied ever since... It appears he has another mentor though, an IRL friend of his that is in the same realm and "recruited" him.

[Vellos]

First a question: do we want to make a separate thread where we try to figure out why new players don't join the game/how we can improve the rate of them staying?

I don't think we need to separate. This thread is supposed to be about retention.

[Gustav Kuriga]

If he has an IRL friend teaching him the ways of the game, then just be patient. He'll be ready to respond to other players as his friend teaches him the game.