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Longer shelf life of scribe notes

Started by Chenier, January 16, 2019, 02:55:05 PM

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Chenier

It would be nice if scout reports and battle reports lived longer. Battle reports are already saved in the message log for a month, it'd be nice for them to last in the scribe notes for the same time.

Scout reports, and other scribe notes, tend not to live very long at all. Not sure if that's a DB memory issue (I think memory is cheap and that they don't use up all that much data?), or what? Would be nice to have them longer too.

The only issue I'd see would be clogging up the new scribe sharing mechanism, I guess, but that one could have a stricter cut-off.
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Anaris

How useful is it really to have a scout report of a region that's a week old?

By that point, any troops in the region are likely to have moved on.
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Chenier

Quote from: Anaris on January 16, 2019, 02:57:10 PM
How useful is it really to have a scout report of a region that's a week old?

By that point, any troops in the region are likely to have moved on.

Depends on the context and for whom.

I more or less regularly look up old reports for insights. "How many troops does X have? Well, Y fought then 20 days ago, and they brought Z troops then..." Cross-checking old reports with various fresher info allows a lot of extrapolation.

Like, right now, I'd REALLY like to look at those battle reports for Unterstrom (12 days ago for the first one). There's a few things I want to check, but can't, because I didn't think of looking at them in time. So instead I have to ask some of the players there to copy-paste it into pastebin or an xls file to send it to me out of game (which I'm not really expecting any of them to do, tbh).

Also it's nice to save some battle reports for posterity, but usually the battles occur in intense moments, when you don't really have time/attention to bother archiving, and by the time you do, they are gone.
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Zakky

Instead of longer life for scrible notes, can we have battle notes to last longer? I think they are worth keeping around longer.

Chenier

Quote from: Zakky on January 17, 2019, 04:52:43 AM
Instead of longer life for scrible notes, can we have battle notes to last longer? I think they are worth keeping around longer.

I don't understand the distinction? Battle Reports are one form of scribe notes?
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Medron Pryde

Another thing that is nice about scribe reports is that they tell us what stuff is in a region.

Not just troops, but recruiting stations, temples, and lots of other interesting things.

There are many reasons to want to look at them.

Chenier

Yea, RCs, other buildings, walls, militia, faiths, and a bunch of other data are fairly static.
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De-Legro

If they are important should not your character (ie you) be takinig manual actions to preserve them. Otherwise it is just like RL, if you don't file away important stuff you lose it.

Quote from: Chenier on January 16, 2019, 03:19:01 PM
Also it's nice to save some battle reports for posterity, but usually the battles occur in intense moments, when you don't really have time/attention to bother archiving, and by the time you do, they are gone.

The ability to manually archive reports is something I can support, much better then having a folder of copy/pasted notes and reports.
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Chenier

Quote from: De-Legro on January 24, 2019, 09:58:26 PM
If they are important should not your character (ie you) be takinig manual actions to preserve them. Otherwise it is just like RL, if you don't file away important stuff you lose it.

The ability to manually archive reports is something I can support, much better then having a folder of copy/pasted notes and reports.

Sure, but people usually archive stuff in their downtime. Emails, reports, receipts, whatever, nothing IRL really lasts as little time as BM scout reports do. As it is, one can't even wait to do it on weekends, most reports will be deleted already by then.
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