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Dwilight Anthropology Project

Started by JPierreD, July 18, 2011, 06:26:12 AM

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JPierreD

Fair enough. Ask your realm mates, and we'll do what we can about it. But don't forget we are talking about two kinds of people here:
Native Fissoans - Those that were /before/ you came. They could be red, and you could still be Caucasian, as you came from the Mimer Peninsula.
Fissoan Colonists - That would be the group you describe as white, it would be nice to have a loose description of it.

I personally made the Fissoan Natives thinking of a group of Madinean Natives that colonized Southern Forland and both adapted to the local environment and mixed with the Forland Natives.
Here they are: Roi-Poru and Imanaghan

Of course, this is all subject to the approval and eventual modification or discard from you players of Fissoa.
d'Arricarrère Family: Torpius (All around Dwilight), Felicie (Riombara), Frederic (Riombara) and Luc (Eponllyn).

Shizzle

I don't want to be rude, or unthankful for your work, but the -Poru names sound kind of ... unfitting. I think I'd survive using Imanaghan though.
Honestly, Fissoa is quite ... British in some of it's ways.

JPierreD

Don't worry, I'm suggesting and checking if you like it or not. If not, we'll change it.

I think you might have not got it, but the Poru are the native inhabitants of Fissoa, from before the colonization. Like the Iroquois in North America. Poru actually comes from the Guarani (I think... it was a native South American language). Surely you don't want the native Indians to have a British name right? It would like placing Scots where the Apaches should be.

If you do, it's not a problem, will be done, it just sounds a little bit odd.
d'Arricarrère Family: Torpius (All around Dwilight), Felicie (Riombara), Frederic (Riombara) and Luc (Eponllyn).

Shizzle

Quote from: JPierreD on August 12, 2011, 07:33:08 AM
Don't worry, I'm suggesting and checking if you like it or not. If not, we'll change it.

I think you might have not got it, but the Poru are the native inhabitants of Fissoa, from before the colonization. Like the Iroquois in North America. Poru actually comes from the Guarani (I think... it was a native South American language). Surely you don't want the native Indians to have a British name right? It would like placing Scots where the Apaches should be.

If you do, it's not a problem, will be done, it just sounds a little bit odd.

Ah like that. My mistake. A simple name-change would do, in that case :)

JPierreD

How about this?
General name for the 3 groups of natives - Peyak
Madina Natives - Michisiw
Fissoa Natives - Nakatew
Candiels Natives - Nîpîy

It's Cree language.
d'Arricarrère Family: Torpius (All around Dwilight), Felicie (Riombara), Frederic (Riombara) and Luc (Eponllyn).

Shizzle

Quote from: JPierreD on August 12, 2011, 10:21:38 PM
How about this?
General name for the 3 groups of natives - Peyak
Madina Natives - Michisiw
Fissoa Natives - Nakatew
Candiels Natives - Nîpîy

It's Cree language.

how about something we can actually pronounce and remember?
perhaps the Fissoan colonists invented a name for the indigenous people ...?

JPierreD

My idea was for their names to be actually alien and strange, so it helps in the immersion, but that can work as well.

What do you suggest?
d'Arricarrère Family: Torpius (All around Dwilight), Felicie (Riombara), Frederic (Riombara) and Luc (Eponllyn).

JPierreD

Named the Madinean-based culture as "Seafarers" for now, until someone from their culture gets a better idea, though I kind of like the name.

On their native populations, they remain as I had originally named, since their possible names disapproval did not come with an alternative. If anyone has alternative names to propose, they would be quite welcome.
d'Arricarrère Family: Torpius (All around Dwilight), Felicie (Riombara), Frederic (Riombara) and Luc (Eponllyn).

bearhammer

I'm just going to throw in my two cents here, I read your original post JP, but not the entire thread yet, so forgive me if this has been addressed: Why is the region's climate referred to as Mediterranean? It's a reference that we understand, of course, but it's a climate archetype labeled by a region that doesn't exist in our characters' world and therefore describes nothing about the region to our characters: it's meaningless to them.

It's an easy fix as well: semi-arid, sub-tropical. This description also makes sense if we are to compare Dwilight to Australia. In fact, there are a few things Dwilight has in common with Australia: the same hemisphere, a desert in the center of the continent, and semi-arid and sub-tropical coastlines.
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JPierreD

That might be a suggestion for the 'development' or 'feature request' threads, since it is defined in IG mechanics the region climates. Perhaps a dev could comment on that.
d'Arricarrère Family: Torpius (All around Dwilight), Felicie (Riombara), Frederic (Riombara) and Luc (Eponllyn).

vanKaya

Mediterranean in Latin refers to the middle of earth so the term is still useful in describing climate even without the presence of an actual Mediterranean sea in the BM world
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bearhammer

Indeed vanKaya, but if the map is also an accurate geographical layout (latitude and longitude) then Dwilight is not really in the middle of the planet, it's more like Australia.

You are right though that it is acceptable if the languages are borrowed from real life (I'm still new here so I wasn't aware of that) and I suppose it doesn't have to be changed.
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Anaris

Quote from: bearhammer on September 27, 2011, 03:58:03 AM
It's an easy fix as well: semi-arid, sub-tropical. This description also makes sense if we are to compare Dwilight to Australia. In fact, there are a few things Dwilight has in common with Australia: the same hemisphere, a desert in the center of the continent, and semi-arid and sub-tropical coastlines.

How do you figure that Dwilight is in the same hemisphere as Australia?
Timothy Collett

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Draco Tanos

Was wondering that myself.  Didn't think an official planet map was released.

Ramiel

Quote from: Draco Tanos on September 27, 2011, 01:40:42 PM
Was wondering that myself.  Didn't think an official planet map was released.

Not really... there are those on the BM cups and mousepads but thats just more of a image than official planet map imo...?
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