Types of Majority

Stue (DC) · August 07, 2011, 01:24:25 PM

I went to wiki to check out differences between absolute and qualified majority in setting referendums - to found out that it is erased from wiki.

now i could make general googling to remind myself, but it looked more pragmatical to post the question here.

the question about why such things are erased from wiki is another story... i can only imagine how newbies could have troubles to find get the answers...

Bedwyr · August 07, 2011, 05:11:48 PM

Erased from the wiki is bad. Which page was this?

Revan · August 07, 2011, 05:40:19 PM

Quote from: Bedwyr on August 07, 2011, 05:11:48 PM
Erased from the wiki is bad. Which page was this?

I guess here (Referendum) but the page hasn't been edited since it was created four and a half years ago. More a case that the information never existed than it's been erased?

I always thought that once you actually started a referendum, it would explain how the results would be tallied in-game? You know, just like when council/lordly elections show 'A simple majority was required, i.e. 1 vote.' with the results.

As to the OP's question, I would guess an absolute majority requires 50% support for a referendum option to pass. A qualified majority would require 50% of all those eligible to vote to support a referendum option for it to pass. There could still be a simple majority in favour, but if only, say, 40% of eligible nobles voted, it will automatically fail.

Still, the only way to know for sure might be to initiate one of those referendums in-game :-P

Bedwyr · August 07, 2011, 06:00:43 PM

http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Help:Referendum

This explains it pretty well...

Telrunya · August 07, 2011, 06:51:43 PM

The Referendum Page doesn't seem to have a link towards that Help Page though. Normally there is a big question mark in the topright corner.

And the Help:Referendum doesn't seem to show up when Searching for 'Referendum'

Bedwyr · August 07, 2011, 07:03:49 PM

The help page issue is a known problem and is being worked on. I'm not familiar enough with the wiki to know why searching for "referendum" doesn't show the help:Referendum page, though.

^ban^ · August 07, 2011, 08:31:05 PM

Quote from: Bedwyr on August 07, 2011, 07:03:49 PM
The help page issue is a known problem and is being worked on. I'm not familiar enough with the wiki to know why searching for "referendum" doesn't show the help:Referendum page, though.

/Referendum is in the main BattleMaster wiki namespace. The Help: page is in the Help namespace, and non-main namespaces are not searched by default.

Indirik · August 08, 2011, 03:14:17 PM

Quote from: ^ban^ on August 07, 2011, 08:31:05 PMThe Help: page is in the Help namespace, and non-main namespaces are not searched by default.

This can be changed, by going to http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Special:Preferences. On the Search Options tab, check the "Help" box. It is possible that Tom might be able to change this to be enabled for new accounts. Not sure...

Stue (DC) · August 09, 2011, 10:51:41 AM

Bedwyr, how did your reach that?

I remember that page from before, but could not reach it neither from direct help nor from wiki text search.

there was "stub-empty" page with title "referendum" instead.

Indirik · August 09, 2011, 02:52:12 PM

As ^ban^ says, the Help namespace is not searched by default. If you want your search to include Help pages as well, you need to either change your preferences as I described above, or use the Search button instead of the Go button, then tick the box named "Help" to enable searching for Help pages as well. Not that ticking the box on the Search page is not "sticky". It resets every time to you go back to that page. If you want it to stick, you need to change your wiki preferences.

Stue (DC) · August 09, 2011, 04:24:47 PM

ops, sorry, i did not read posts in all details ;D thanks.

Chenier · August 11, 2011, 04:11:00 AM

Quote from: Indirik on August 09, 2011, 02:52:12 PM
As ^ban^ says, the Help namespace is not searched by default. If you want your search to include Help pages as well, you need to either change your preferences as I described above, or use the Search button instead of the Go button, then tick the box named "Help" to enable searching for Help pages as well. Not that ticking the box on the Search page is not "sticky". It resets every time to you go back to that page. If you want it to stick, you need to change your wiki preferences.

Is there any way to have the help pages searched by default for everyone?

Indirik · August 11, 2011, 04:14:49 AM

I don't know. It would be an admin option only Tom can change. If you can find out how to do it, I'm pretty sure he'd be willing to do it.

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