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Title: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: Bael on April 06, 2012, 09:54:59 AM
Twainville   2006/13900
Twainwood 3576/5900

Twainwood surrounds Twainville, and yet I have not seen one single migrant.

Am I calling foul a bit too early? Maybe...but I am getting very tired of watching the city grow by 18 people per day! So I am am wondering: is migration still active? I remember the threshold for peasants to start moving out is about 50%...

Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: Sypher on April 06, 2012, 10:26:37 AM
Still working on Beluaterra. People are leaving my poor city that is being taken over by Daimons :(
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: egamma on April 06, 2012, 02:00:03 PM
In D'Hara Qubel Lighthouse has pretty much stopped growing at 75% population, it's feeding everyone into Sallowtown now. So keep an eye on it, you'll be the one to discover at what % the population starts moving!
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: Foundation on April 06, 2012, 06:13:13 PM
Migration is always active, it's just your set of regions may not satisfy the criteria.
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: Penchant on April 06, 2012, 06:39:13 PM
Twainville   2006/13900
Twainwood 3576/5900

Twainwood surrounds Twainville, and yet I have not seen one single migrant.

Am I calling foul a bit too early? Maybe...but I am getting very tired of watching the city grow by 18 people per day! So I am am wondering: is migration still active? I remember the threshold for peasants to start moving out is about 50%...
I believe you need to make other stats (Not production) highish too so that the peasants actually want to go there.
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: JPierreD on April 06, 2012, 06:44:09 PM
I believe you need to make other stats (Not production) highish too so that the peasants actually want to go there.

Peasants from Twainwood are likely emigrating to other of its bordering regions, seemingly more interesting for them than Twainville.
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: Bael on April 06, 2012, 07:20:06 PM
I believe you need to make other stats (Not production) highish too so that the peasants actually want to go there.

Peasants from Twainwood are likely emigrating to other of its bordering regions, seemingly more interesting for them than Twainville.

Sadly, it is none of the above. If they were going anywhere, it would be into Twainville (lowest population percentage of total possible population, perfect stats).
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: Eithad on April 13, 2012, 01:47:10 AM
They dont just migrate to the area with lost population. Its more complicated than that.
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: egamma on April 16, 2012, 06:53:52 PM
They dont just migrate to the area with lost population. Its more complicated than that.

Correct. battles/monsters/undead make them stay away for several days.
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: Bael on April 16, 2012, 09:08:34 PM
Correct. battles/monsters/undead make them stay away for several days.

Which would be pertinent, if any of those things had actually occurred.
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: Masochist on April 16, 2012, 09:28:48 PM
Though what is pertinent is Twainsville's plodding productivity (due to low population)

Is the system only checking current productivity (16% I think...plodding) or the productivity relative to population (IE I think given the population limit its working near 100% and only limited by population leaving it at overall 16%).

If it is just taking the straight overall productivity value then Twainville is looking BAD especially since the Twainwood region is at "Good" productivity.
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: Bael on April 16, 2012, 09:35:47 PM
Hm, thats an interesting question. Can anyone solve this riddle for us? I don't see why it should have changed, but one never knows.

Edit: Twainwood is still at only 62% population approx, so that might still be the limiting factor.
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: Masochist on April 16, 2012, 09:42:58 PM
62% is still relatively high against Twainville's.

Aside from that, realistically regions around cities are support regions which support cities. I would think that in Twainwood people would see a plethora of open jobs as well as people in the city not buying the goods of Twainwood causing them to move at least to some degree...

That said I dont think the behind the scenes economy calculates such factors.
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: egamma on April 16, 2012, 10:19:20 PM
Productivity is not the cause. If the region's population is at 16%, then production will be at 16% or less--don't confuse it with employment rate.
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: Masochist on April 16, 2012, 10:29:28 PM
I was simply basing what I am saying on the premise that the the productivity of a region influences its migration rates on top of the fact that productivity can be limited by population.

If productivity is limited by population then one could safely assume that there is room for jobs by simply showing up and being able to put the unused resources of the region (the other 84% of the productivity) to use.
Title: Re: Immigration still working on testing?
Post by: Indirik on April 17, 2012, 03:13:07 AM
A large portion of that "idle" production simply does not exist until there are people there to consume. You don't need a few hundred theaters, taverns, whorehouses, breweries, etc. to feed all of 1,000 people.

Anyway, region production has no effect at all on migration.