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Title: Fontan deportee returned
Post by: Velax on May 16, 2012, 04:53:40 PM
Thought I'd point out that this player who was deported from Fontan by Tom for clanning has returned to Fontan:

http://battlemaster.org/UserDetails.php?ID=30651&HistoryLevel=3

2012-04-22      Caeranor Saegarus      Forcefully deported by a GameMaster to Far East.
2012-04-25      Caeranor Saegarus      Joined the realm of Arcaea
2012-05-12      Caeranor Saegarus      Immigrated to East Continent.
2012-05-14      Caeranor Saegarus      Joined the realm of Fontan
Title: Re: Fontan deportee returned
Post by: Anaris on May 16, 2012, 04:54:22 PM
That appears to be approximately the minimum time needed to re-emigrate.
Title: Re: Fontan deportee returned
Post by: Foundation on May 16, 2012, 05:37:58 PM
Similarly for Aurvandil.

http://battlemaster.org/UserDetails.php?ID=29103&HistoryLevel=3

2012-04-22      Reece      Forcefully deported by a GameMaster to Atamara.
2012-04-28      Reece      Joined the realm of Darka
2012-05-14      Reece      Immigrated to Dwilight.
2012-05-16      Reece      Joined the realm of Aurvandil
Title: Re: Fontan deportee returned
Post by: Velax on May 16, 2012, 05:50:00 PM
That appears to be approximately the minimum time needed to re-emigrate.

I imagine so, yes. But I was under the impression, given by the Magistrates, that they were deported so they would "compel the members of this clan to try playing the game separately, as individuals, rather than as a collective that plays the game primarily as a group". Rejoining the other clan members as soon as possible does not seem to fulfill that.
Title: Re: Fontan deportee returned
Post by: Anaris on May 16, 2012, 05:56:23 PM
I imagine so, yes. But I was under the impression, given by the Magistrates, that they were deported so they would "compel the members of this clan to try playing the game separately, as individuals, rather than as a collective that plays the game primarily as a group". Rejoining the other clan members as soon as possible does not seem to fulfill that.

Oh—yes, that was not intended to indicate that they had waited as long as they were supposed to and could come back now. Indeed, I meant quite the opposite: that they had waited no longer than they absolutely had to to come back and join their clan. It's a slap in the face.
Title: Re: Fontan deportee returned
Post by: Kellaine on May 16, 2012, 06:20:21 PM
Oh—yes, that was not intended to indicate that they had waited as long as they were supposed to and could come back now. Indeed, I meant quite the opposite: that they had waited no longer than they absolutely had to to come back and join their clan. It's a slap in the face.

What will be done about it......
Title: Re: Fontan deportee returned
Post by: Anaris on May 16, 2012, 06:26:27 PM
What will be done about it......

Well, I would say "that's up to the Magistrates", but nobody's actually reported this to the Magistrates yet...
Title: Re: Fontan deportee returned
Post by: Vellos on May 16, 2012, 06:29:58 PM
Indeed, if someone would like to start a case, they're welcome to do so. My initial thought is that those players need a more severe punishment.
Title: Re: Fontan deportee returned
Post by: Chaotrance13 on May 16, 2012, 06:32:44 PM
What will be done about it......

It wasn't explicitly mentioned in the judgement, but Tom did mention in one of the various threads on the matter that he was thinking that the minimum time allowed before re-emigrating to the point of departure (in this case, Fontan or Aurvandil) was one year, but there were conditions attached to it. That way the judgement would have been served properly.

Either way, as Vellos has suggested, a case has been started.

Title: Re: Fontan deportee returned
Post by: DamnTaffer on May 17, 2012, 12:14:00 AM
Indeed, if someone would like to start a case, they're welcome to do so. My initial thought is that those players need a more severe punishment.

I assume you mean the players whom returned there characters not general aurvandillians/ fontanites and not all the "Saxons"
Title: Re: Fontan deportee returned
Post by: Vellos on May 17, 2012, 03:51:11 AM
I assume you mean the players whom returned there characters not general aurvandillians/ fontanites and not all the "Saxons"

Yes, sorry for being unclear. I think players who have respected the judgment are fine.