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BattleMaster => Locals => East Island => Topic started by: Gabanus family on July 12, 2016, 12:35:13 PM
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Since everyone is having their own topic, I thought it was about time to make one for Oligarch as well. The rebellious traitors to one, the heroic freedom fghters to others an the annoying guys by some remaining factions. Whatever you think of Oligarch, from an OOC perspective it was created mostly to bring back some fun in the north and BM and so far it has been succeeding in the north. It has never seen so much as it does now, at least not in recent times, and the wars keep switching as well.
I'll start by sharing some RP's in the realm as well, so you get some idea of the current state of affairs in Oligarch. For those who are not in the north, Oligarch has currently lost its lost rural region and the combined forces of Sirion, Nivemus, Eponllyn and Shadowdale are simply too strong in the open field. So in stead Oligarch has been raiding Oberndorf to a point where it may well go rogue soon as a payback for the taking of Greatbridge. A scorched earth war is now beginning, to a certain extend.
The following RP's should give you some indication of how the situation is seen in Oligarch and hint towards what is to come in what will prob still be a very long war. I expect Sirion to bring at most 15k, Nivemus 10k and Eponllyn/Shadowdale also a combined 10k or so. Then considering that some is cav and some won't show up, we're talking about a 30 to 35k sieging force only. Now if that's what they're bringing, I actually don't think they'll break Oligarch. They've given us too much time again to build up our defenses, although we may be spending too much of that time raiding in stead :)
"With a new round of peace negotiations failing and enemy judges refusing to discuss prisoner agreements with Oligarch (except Nivemus) there was but one clear message for Garas, General once more with the loss of his generals. Despite the duties of both Catherine and Garas, they had been seeing each other more than they had in the past as now all action had taken place in the perimeter of Oligarch City and they were no longer separated so often. Garas had made it his duty to be active in the raising of their son, especially when he was in Oligarch City, but he hadn't dared yet to bring his son out of the city. Also this time they hadn't brought him with them yet, as the boy was still extremely young. Already the boy had the history of Oligarch being read to him however, as Garas hoped that some of it would perhaps stick and also because he well realized he himself may very well not live to see the boy reach adulthood and wanted him prepared already from such a young age.
With his son at home, Garas decided to spend more time with his wife. First he had provided specific orders to his men however. Out of the 166 large unit of archers, he sent 100 of them out looting in Oberndorf, equiped with the carts they brought with them for their wounded and supplies so they could return with all the food they could find and return it to the city. Once he had given the orders he ordered another 16 to guard his tent and the remaining 50 to guard him as he moved towards towards his wife who had positioned herself in the command tent in Oberndorf, busy with the many letters and works she had as ruler. Garas well knew the work she had, but decided to visit her nonetheless, leaving his men to guard the perimeter, none followed him into the tent.
As he entered the tent he found a surprised look upon Catherine's face, as she had expected him with the army rather than in her tent. But before she could utter anything, Garas spoke first, not to Catherine, but to the scribes and the guards inside the tent: "Leave us." After a pause he continued, "My love, I had to see you, right now" and as he said these words the surprise on Catherine's face only increased. "What is wrong my love," she said as the last men left the tent and a large perimeter was made by the guards so that even they could not hear what was being said. "Nothing," he calmly replied, I just had to see you. Your face is as beautiful as the day I first saw you, great and beautiful Kronagos. That day I still hold dear to my heart, a glimmering light in times of great war," he continued as he walked towards his wife and kissed her just as he finished speaking, "I just wanted to see you." It was a rare moment to behold with Garas, who was more and more consumed with hatred of his enemies, sometimes even mixed with despair as he realized that for the first time the city might actually one day fall and him with it, his family, his son, his wife, all of them. But not now, now there seemed to be no thought troubling him, other than his desire to be with his wife. "
"In Oberndorf...
It was the first time she had ventured back to the lands of Nivemus in many years. War and the subtleties of diplomacy had bound her to the Oligan territories and those of their enemies. How ironic that now the enemy was Nivemus.
She had spent so many years missing the vales of Eleador, the coasts of Rancagua and the Omsk peninsula, but feeling her husbands body pressed against hers, his hot mouth searching her out she realised again that land meant little and her home would forever be where her heart lay. Her heart would always be with Garas.
Oberndorf had been the site of much in her life, the land she had struggled to defend as a marshal against Perdan, the grounds that her sister had opened invoking the Dagda books to swallow Atanamir and his bride as they had laid waste to her lands. Now as she stood naked and sweating on Nivemus soil; again she studied the taut form of her husband, his thick unruly hair telling the tales of times passage, body honed and scarred by war. He was spent, sleeping as only he could on the cold earth, in a manner that so resembled Goran it took her breath simply to behold him.
Sitting at the polished bronze mirror she pulled the weathered leather bodysuit back into place, it was covered in the finest mesh of oran silver mail making it light yet highly functional as armor. The leather was like a second skin, it seemed to have grown with her, evidenced by the many repairs notable to the practiced eye. The soft leather boots fit snugly over her calves, their integrated scabbards holding a twin set of dirks. Catching up her hair she twisted it deftly around a decorative wooden shaft that concealed her weapon of last defence, a poison tipped glass stiletto that held her hair with a leather clasp depicting the white tree.
Finally she picked up the Oran Diadem, it had been her crown of Nivemus, and now served as her crown of Oligarch, the cold metal slid over her forehead and sat as it was placed, unmoving a simple band that told the world all that it needed to know.
Garas had sent their men away, right now she did not care whether they were within feet or miles, she pulled back the string on the small crossbow that had been crafted by the Shadesmith Nether Leroux, it had little range but its mere presence and accuracy were enough to send most malefactors to ground, either breathing or not.
He was breathing deeply, its resonance more comforting than she could truly express. Tonight she would watch over him. Tonight he could rest. And tomorrow could be what the hell it wanted to be."
"It had been a long time ago that Garas was able to sleep this calmly. The thoughts of Oligarch City burning and his family at risk haunted him ever since Caligus had joined the war and it had ruined his sleep. Even his field of battle was no longer available as the enemy's forces had grown too large.
It was only here in Oberndorf that he regained his sense of purpose, striking down his enemies as he had always done. It brought him back to his past, his glorious past. What weaklings had his enemies become, what cowards. At least the great war had purpose, had honor and glory.
The presence of his wife now gave hik further rest and for the first time in years he did not feel haunted, but safe and rested.
As he woke up he saw Catherine sitting with the crossbow in her hand and he could only smile as he asked "all day my love?""
"One of the things Garas could not well appreciate were the courts he had to hold himself at times, but today was such a day. The wars issued by Eponllyn and Nivemus had lowered moral and even loyalty in Oligarch to a point where work had to be done within the city. He was well aware that there were those within the city that joined the Kronagos when she moved, and even some from Eponllyn who fled during the Perdanese slaughters and these were not at all satisfied with current events and some were even causing trouble.
Garas was in a exceptionally good mood however after Oberndorf and showed mercy where he could. It raised the moral of the original foreigners a lot and even some of their loyalty. He knew however that some of the more serious troublemakers would see it as a sign of weakness and will try to recruit more, raising their forces. Garas knew however he had the loyalty of his people and he would slaughter and crush those rebels another day, not today."
"Garas had been smiling most of the day. With the raids in Oberndorf he had felt in command again and this made him satisfied. What made him perhaps even happier was the time he could spend with his wife while being in the countryside. In the city he had often had to perform courts himself, taking him most of the day, but in the countryside he could simply send his captain out with a large part of his men to pillage and maraud while he could stay behind with some guards and see his wife. Yes, strangely enough the looting and pillaging of the surrounding lands were the most joyous in Garas life, although not because of the looting itself. "
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So Oligarch just succesfully struck down some enemy nobles in Greatbridge just after Nivemus has reclaimed it and all armies are apparently refitting. With Sirion's armies in Oberndorf after it being looted to the ground, Oligarch was free to move into Greatbridge. To add insult to injury Catherine actually managed to 'press her claim' to the region, meaning Greatbridge just returned to Oligarch. This new fase of the war of destruction is not off to a great start...
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Hooray Oligarch! Don't die on us just yet!
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Hooray Oligarch! Don't die on us just yet!
Lol, well we'll try. So far so good, untill I see Calgiun troops :p
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Good roleplays, Gabanus. Brock is also having his own Roleplays about the events, but in Nivemus.
Be wary, Brock is coming. Or the Rock is coming :P
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the most electrifying leader in ec today
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As you can notice half of these RP's are from the Chamberlain family (Catherine, ruler of Oligarch) and we do what we can to keep the realm and the north entertaining. One hell of a struggle up ahead, but we got a lapallanch now again, so we're all good 8)
And Brock is most welcome to come to our walls and die. I still got one extra surprise waiting for a noble, but can't yet decide whom is deserving the pleasure :) Brock is one of the contenders, but it'll prob be a Sirionite.
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As you can notice half of these RP's are from the Chamberlain family (Catherine, ruler of Oligarch) and we do what we can to keep the realm and the north entertaining. One hell of a struggle up ahead, but we got a lapallanch now again, so we're all good 8)
And Brock is most welcome to come to our walls and die. I still got one extra surprise waiting for a noble, but can't yet decide whom is deserving the pleasure :) Brock is one of the contenders, but it'll prob be a Sirionite.
Since when is 'having a Lappalanch' considered good? ;D
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Since when is 'having a Lappalanch' considered good? ;D
Prob I've been hit on the head too many times, but I was cheering to have him back (although would've prefered Galt, he was so nice) ;D
Plus this way he won't be spreading his tactical knowledge to our enemies, so we only have the Risk family to worry about really...
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Since when is 'having a Lappalanch' considered good? ;D
Mine died. I liked him. I want another one.
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misery does love company
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misery does love company
If that were true, Selenia would marry Kellan <3
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???
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misery does love company
Nah it's just Zakky that always has these colorful characters these days which are typically a great deal of fun to play with :)
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Since when is 'having a Lappalanch' considered good? ;D
LOL. It depends I guess. It is like getting a fortune cookie. You don't know what you will get until you get open one.
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LOL. It depends I guess. It is like getting a fortune cookie. You don't know what you will get until you get open one.
...from guggle to zatch?
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Don't they all say:
"You will live a long happy life"
That sounds jsut fine to me!! ;D
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And once more Oligarch managed to sneak in, steal a couple of hundreds worth of bushels of food from Commonyr this time, without losing any significant part of its army *looks at Zakky*
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there you go oli, paying the iron price like true men 8)
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Zakky is insignificant. Ignore him.
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As you can notice half of these RP's are from the Chamberlain family (Catherine, ruler of Oligarch) and we do what we can to keep the realm and the north entertaining. One hell of a struggle up ahead, but we got a lapallanch now again, so we're all good 8)
And Brock is most welcome to come to our walls and die. I still got one extra surprise waiting for a noble, but can't yet decide whom is deserving the pleasure :) Brock is one of the contenders, but it'll prob be a Sirionite.
Brock is one of the contenders? And there are other contenders beside him? Awwww... I need play Brock to become one and only then 8)
Die on the wall? Good idea, epic way to go I guess :P
Yes, Catherine used to Roleplay a lot while she was in Nivemus.
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Brock is one of the contenders? And there are other contenders beside him? Awwww... I need play Brock to become one and only then 8)
Die on the wall? Good idea, epic way to go I guess :P
Yes, Catherine used to Roleplay a lot while she was in Nivemus.
Haha well he's doing a great job in that, but there is a lot of bad blood between Garas and some Sirionites of course :p
And we done it again, move in a struck Bruck to get some bushels before moving away. I really really wonder what (if there is any) your strategy is exactly, but I'll guess we'll seen it soon enough.
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Doubt they have one hehe.
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I'm actually starting to fear as much, which would be kinda strange
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are there elves in oli or all human nobles
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are there elves in oli or all human nobles
Once you leave Sirion, you ain't an elf. If you are in Sirion, well you can claim to be one. It is one of those don't get too deep just let it slip kind of thing.
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Which is itself a matter of interpretation, some holding that only those in Sirion at the time of the grandfathering are elves and the remaining sirionites are their human protectors.
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Which is itself a matter of interpretation, some holding that only those in Sirion at the time of the grandfathering are elves and the remaining sirionites are their human protectors.
I like the fact that it's a grey (gray?) area. Provides an interesting dynamic for IC RP between Sirion and other realms.
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yea it seems like a bit of a gray area, we had a sirion player rping an elf character briefly in coralynth and had some fun rping the tension between a random elf showing up and a couple of very anti-elf characters who were initially very suspicious... the elf char unfortunately paused before it could really go anywhere.
id be interested to hear from an oli player if anyone is rping an elf there.
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Are there any players RPing as elves at this time?
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it seems they no longer use "the elven republic of sirion" or whatever as their long name so maybe not...
thats a shame, there goes my anti-elf campaign
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It has always been just 'Republic of Sirion'. They only call themselves the Elven Republic when they talk to other rulers but the official name hasn't change for a long time.
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Goodbye Garas! Time to feel the fear ::)
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Goodbye Garas! Time to feel the fear ::)
He ain't going anywhere for a long time!
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Are there any players RPing as elves at this time?
The only one I can think of in recent times was the Serpentis. Haven't seen any elves doing their elfy dances round Oligarch since Durion hung his halberd.
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He ain't going anywhere for a long time!
Good, Brock has a Christmas present for Garas :-X
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Good, Brock has a Christmas present for Garas :-X
Sounds good, it's about time. We're seriously expected to entertain ourselves at this point by doing bat!@#$ crazy moves :)
@JDogder, nobody in Oli is an elf, or is RPing as one. I think there are some old elves still in Sirion, but not a lot anymore.
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The only one I can think of in recent times was the Serpentis. Haven't seen any elves doing their elfy dances round Oligarch since Durion hung his halberd.
Didn't Serpantis quit a year ago? :-(
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I wouldn't say a year ago but he definitely quit few months ago.
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Ugh Brock out wounded. Garas ambushed him :o
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Ugh Brock out wounded. Garas ambushed him :o
Hehe! Sneak Garas!
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Hehe! Sneak Garas!
Yeah, sneaky Garas. Lucky I have some idea to do something with Brock unit, hope you all get surprised ::)
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Yeah, sneaky Garas. Lucky I have some idea to do something with Brock unit, hope you all get surprised ::)
I could not resist it :) Have to RP still that I brought one of your banners as a present to Catherine.
Curious what you'll do with your unit then. Untill then we'll crush your allies and countrymen first. Funny though that you showed me yesterday what your strategy for the siege will be, but it will fail also I'm afraid. Oligarch's militia has been very carefully crafted just to counter the archer opening siege.
*Edit, okay this is lame. One of Garas' most glorious battles to come and they seriously wound him with magic... :(
Ps, in case people believe this will change much, sorry but the settings were without marshal settings anyway so I expect a slaugther nonetheless.
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Looks like we won't be going anywhere for awhile. Sirion and her allies got crushed just now. Their settings were pretty bad though.
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It looks like Sirion's Prime Ministers killed two Eponlli nobility fighting for Oligarch.
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Right~ Eppy nobles~ Right! Damn Sirionite PMs....
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Hell, hadn't even considered they were Eppy nobles by origin. Lol, looking more and more forward to being healed again now. So much taunting to do, so much chaos to spread and so much to write :)
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I could not resist it :) Have to RP still that I brought one of your banners as a present to Catherine.
Curious what you'll do with your unit then. Untill then we'll crush your allies and countrymen first. Funny though that you showed me yesterday what your strategy for the siege will be, but it will fail also I'm afraid. Oligarch's militia has been very carefully crafted just to counter the archer opening siege.
*Edit, okay this is lame. One of Garas' most glorious battles to come and they seriously wound him with magic... :(
Ps, in case people believe this will change much, sorry but the settings were without marshal settings anyway so I expect a slaugther nonetheless.
Yeah Garas is so "good" to Brock. Now when Brock fully healed, and him losing a Ring, as I tell Zakky here, I probably have to consider Roleplay he lost his finger :o
Nice magic, I saw who done it ::)
Looks like we won't be going anywhere for awhile. Sirion and her allies got crushed just now. Their settings were pretty bad though.
No comment since Brock eyes have not opened well to see the battle report. But I saw they lost the battle :(
It looks like Sirion's Prime Ministers killed two Eponlli nobility fighting for Oligarch.
Yes, sad :'(
Right~ Eppy nobles~ Right! Damn Sirionite PMs....
At least they are not killed by Eppy themselves, that would be too coincidence if it happens :P
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Yeah Garas is so "good" to Brock. Now when Brock fully healed, and him losing a Ring, as I tell Zakky here, I probably have to consider Roleplay he lost his finger :o
Yup, and while Brock is so good to Garas, uhum :) And yeah I have to figure out how to RP my wounds as well. Maybe some burned scar on his face or something (not sure if you saw my RP on the magic wounding?)
Nice magic, I saw who done it ::)
I so want to know who did this, but I don't want to know, cause it'll ruin the RP and the IC experience, but I want to know, but don't!
No comment since Brock eyes have not opened well to see the battle report. But I saw they lost the battle :(
Of course they did. With all due respect, but this was perhaps the worst executed siege I've seen in my life.
Yes, sad :'(
At least they are not killed by Eppy themselves, that would be too coincidence if it happens :P
Well the fact that Ivo and Ecthelion did it fits perfectly with their RP of threathening all nobles in Oligarch with death, but 2 hero deaths...pff that's not so good for us tbh.
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Of course they did. With all due respect, but this was perhaps the worst executed siege I've seen in my life.
Don't include me, I was just ramming my unit somewhere because I couldn't afford to pay them. I guess they thought my attack plan was a good idea?
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Don't include me, I was just ramming my unit somewhere because I couldn't afford to pay them. I guess they thought my attack plan was a good idea?
They must have recognized your genious I guess, cause they did pretty much the same.
Too bad your char fled so quickly though, I wanted my Keeper of Keys to 'friendly' ask you why you left us :p
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Hey.... did you hear the word!?
I'm back... until flies away with more beer.
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Hey.... did you hear the word!?
I'm back... until flies away with more beer.
I know Juan is back. Is that why you came back? Good to have you back though.
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Yup, and while Brock is so good to Garas, uhum :) And yeah I have to figure out how to RP my wounds as well. Maybe some burned scar on his face or something (not sure if you saw my RP on the magic wounding?)
Yeah, I saw your RP, nicely done OOC. Not that Brock agree with Garas anyway IC on that magic coming from his banner part.
Of course they did. With all due respect, but this was perhaps the worst executed siege I've seen in my life.
The new leaders need start learning somewhere. Give them time? :P
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I already sent him "Uruguaio viado".
I'm just missing a little of BM and some of you, pussies.
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As always people manage to disappoint me even further and I wasn't certain this was possible at this point in BM...Caligus will soon be joining the fray against Oligarch, the big heros that they are!
I can make you one promise though, if 5 nations start gang up to destroy Oligarch, Garas will stop at nothing to destroy each and every single one of them, no matter how much people beg for a peace treaty and think it's unfair. Either that or I'll just stop playing, but this is pathetic.
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Hey.... did you hear the word!?
Bird?
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As always people manage to disappoint me even further and I wasn't certain this was possible at this point in BM...Caligus will soon be joining the fray against Oligarch, the big heros that they are!
I can make you one promise though, if 5 nations start gang up to destroy Oligarch, Garas will stop at nothing to destroy each and every single one of them, no matter how much people beg for a peace treaty and think it's unfair. Either that or I'll just stop playing, but this is pathetic.
Elves are pussies.
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Elves are pussies.
Sirion has become weak, and honestly I can't be much surprised about Caligus joining...I mean, it's Caligus...since when have they ever fought a proper war?
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Talking to other nobles behind Garas' back... priceless. So fun :D
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Talking to other nobles behind Garas' back... priceless. So fun :D
Haha have fun with that one :) So far nobody ratted you out so he doesn't know
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While I, of all people, get how much it sucks to have the odds stacked against you, I think there's more to this than a simple gangbang. However it may have started out, Oligrach is now just in the way.
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While I, of all people, get how much it sucks to have the odds stacked against you, I think there's more to this than a simple gangbang. However it may have started out, Oligrach is now just in the way.
Only in the way of Sirion really, all others had more than enough alternative options. But we'll continue to stay in the way for a while longer. Still have 21k family wealth ready to prolong this as long as possible.
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Haha have fun with that one :) So far nobody ratted you out so he doesn't know
Haha he isn't talking behind Garas that way. He is just insulting people he shouldn't.
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Haha he isn't talking behind Garas that way. He is just insulting people he shouldn't.
Oh haha like that. Well he'd been warned before, so be glad Garas doesn't know :)
I can image you have some interesting conversations
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While I, of all people, get how much it sucks to have the odds stacked against you, I think there's more to this than a simple gangbang. However it may have started out, Oligrach is now just in the way.
It's suicide for the northern states if this continues to go ahead. Sirion show their weakness by the fact that they have had to draw so much into this rather than saving face with making peace when they had and have the opportunity.
They are also making it that 17 angry nobles are going to join some enemy state as like as not which with the lower noble density is going to end up giving some enemy of theirs a huge advantage.
Pride comes before a fall and this war is all about Sirions ego and pride.
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Haha he isn't talking behind Garas that way. He is just insulting people he shouldn't.
Hey!! Catherine is already trying to mop up Garas statements don't give her the added bonus of Qu's too.
At least give me some initials for who 8 need to be extra nice too lol
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Hey!! Catherine is already trying to mop up Garas statements don't give her the added bonus of Qu's too.
At least give me some initials for who 8 need to be extra nice too lol
Well Qu already made enemies out of Ivo, Brock, and Bjorn. I think that is quite an accomplishment.
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At least they reply to you.... maybe I should be more insulting in my messages... :o
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At least they reply to you.... maybe I should be more insulting in my messages... :o
Well some of them didn't reply at first so Qu just decided to insult them every day. They eventually decided to send some angry letters back.
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Hey!! Catherine is already trying to mop up Garas statements don't give her the added bonus of Qu's too.
At least give me some initials for who 8 need to be extra nice too lol
Y'all must be a funny married couple... ;D
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You should have been at the wedding....
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Hey!! Catherine is already trying to mop up Garas statements don't give her the added bonus of Qu's too.
At least give me some initials for who 8 need to be extra nice too lol
Well, more mess for you to clean up, it is going be a lifetime job I am afraid.
Garas is not exactly PR friendly, if you know what I mean ;)
Well Qu already made enemies out of Ivo, Brock, and Bjorn. I think that is quite an accomplishment.
Brock has asked his scribe to burn Qu letters as firewoods or rather paperwoods. Short of killing Qu off, so do keep trying if you wish to reach that point :P
You should have been at the wedding....
Agree, everyone should have been there :)
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So what's all this I'm hearing?
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So what's all this I'm hearing?
I don't know, what are you hearing? :P
If you're hearing stuff from a Mayham, just ignore it ;D
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So...another siege attempt on Oligarch and another huge failure. This has got to be the worst movement rate I've seen in a while btw. 32k arriving out of a 42k total mobile force, while performing a 2-turn-move.
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Even with Caligus, they can't win LOL.
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If they had brought their full force (or say 40k) I think it could've been very interesting. Not in terms of victory/defeat, but they might have lowered the wall a level. Now the wall will be repaired and all that's lost is yet another dead Oligarchian noble.
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Sooo does that mean Xavax is the only country in the East to successfully take an enemy city?
Well, Xavax and Stegman Hemmings I guess.
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The Caligan king has also done a spectacularly poor job of getting buy-in from the nobles so a lot of people sat home.
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Caligus needs to revive its own thread. he realm is just sort of....there...existing
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This is what Kevaver gets for going on a pilgrimage/protecting a priest, missing out on war.
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I heard King of Caligus isn't that good of a ruler. Doesn't really communicate with lower ranks. Is that true?
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The Caligan king has also done a spectacularly poor job of getting buy-in from the nobles so a lot of people sat home.
In fairness Caligus voted to end the war with us quite recently and I don't think Bjorn really wants to be back in the war either...
Sirion must have great cookies to get so many people to throw so many armies at the walls just to satisfy their wounded pride.
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In fairness Caligus voted to end the war with us quite recently and I don't think Bjorn really wants to be back in the war either...
Sirion must have great cookies to get so many people to throw so many armies at the walls just to satisfy their wounded pride.
*noms Sirionite cookie*
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Are Sirion elves like Dwarf Fortress elves? If so, I'd ask what's in the cookie before eating it...
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Are Sirion elves like Dwarf Fortress elves? If so, I'd ask what's in the cookie before eating it...
Think it's just chocolate but you never know.
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Think it's just chocolate but you never know.
There's chocolate and then there's CHOCOLATE...
I remember Fane (Lordy does anyone else remember the three week state of Fane.) They tried to tempt with pies.... very unsuccessful.
I was thinking of some FO Muffins... some sort of chocolate caramel combo...
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There's chocolate and then there's CHOCOLATE...
I remember Fane (Lordy does anyone else remember the three week state of Fane.) They tried to tempt with pies.... very unsuccessful.
I was thinking of some FO Muffins... some sort of chocolate caramel combo...
*drools* Darn this pilgrimage!
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Also Shadowdale only sent 2 nobles and now backed out of the war, which is interesting.
I was surprised by Caligus' strength and movement rate, but the above does explain quite a bit.
/me does miss Sirionite cookies
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Also Shadowdale only sent 2 nobles and now backed out of the war, which is interesting.
I was surprised by Caligus' strength and movement rate, but the above does explain quite a bit.
/me does miss Sirionite cookies
*Throws Sirionite cookies at you* Sharing!
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*Throws Sirionite cookies at you* Sharing!
Thanks, tastes delicious! Perhaps I should consider joining Sirion again ::) ;D
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Thanks, tastes delicious! Perhaps I should consider joining Sirion again ::) ;D
The last I hear Garas cookies does not allowed to be sell in Sirion. It is banned from the market :D
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It's surprising just how easily Garas can sell cookies in certain parts of Sirion
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Well Garas is a much liked and loved man in the north of course and with such a likeability it's easy to sell and do business with others 8)
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First Oligarch will hold on for quite a while more.
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Well our strategy is too superior for our enemies to deal with! I call it the turtle strat!
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Well our strategy is too superior for our enemies to deal with! I call it the turtle strat!
Yay, TURTLE!
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Turtling is an effective strategy,but you do need enough gold for it.
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Turtling is an effective strategy,but you do need enough gold for it.
No problem, but in all fairness Oligarch has turtled much less than we should have. We have gone out to raid, TO etc far too many times simply becausse I didn't want people to just remain behind walls and get bored.
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Looks like things are finally moving once again. I wonder Sirion and others will attack after sunrise. Would love to see the result :D
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As usual,Oligarch defends successfully.
We'll just have to wait till Gabanus is out of gold.
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As usual,Oligarch defends successfully.
We'll just have to wait till Gabanus is out of gold.
Never out of gold! Gold! But in all honesty, Oligarch has some serious problems now. Walls went down to level 4 and someone has been giving the horders of the north military tactic tips (You know I know who you are!) which means that things may change soon.
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Such discussions could be held more openly, so as to benefit all players.
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Such discussions could be held more openly, so as to benefit all players.
What kind of discussions? The player of the general of Sirion asked another player OOC if he could give him some tips. You can always ask for tips to someone you think who knows military strategy right? True the north is a bit late, cause if they see the militia in Oligarch you'll see it's designed to stand at least a good enough chance against these kind of sieges, but the north + Caligus simply has so many numbers and forces that it's rather difficult of course.
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What kind of discussions? The player of the general of Sirion asked another player OOC if he could give him some tips. You can always ask for tips to someone you think who knows military strategy right? True the north is a bit late, cause if they see the militia in Oligarch you'll see it's designed to stand at least a good enough chance against these kind of sieges, but the north + Caligus simply has so many numbers and forces that it's rather difficult of course.
Yeah. And all the tips I gave him are impossible to do without having enough men to do it. They didn't have enough men but still got something done this time through just a number advantage.
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Point is, that the discussion could be extended to a more broad medium so more can benefit, such as here, or the in-game Mentoring Forum.
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Point is, that the discussion could be extended to a more broad medium so more can benefit, such as here, or the in-game Mentoring Forum.
I'm not so sure tbh. Good strategies have a tendency to spread quickly anyway. Look at Korlock's siege on WI that suddenly became the standard almost, of which the siege of Oligarch was just a variation really.
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You are seriously wounded, mostly unconscious and unable to communicate or act.
Wait..... did i manage to touch the wall at least this time? :( :( :(
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Wait..... did i manage to touch the wall at least this time? :( :( :(
No I think you didn't :p
But your allies did :(
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I'm not so sure tbh. Good strategies have a tendency to spread quickly anyway. Look at Korlock's siege on WI that suddenly became the standard almost, of which the siege of Oligarch was just a variation really.
I've never heard of that. In fact a good many of the new players have probably never heard of it either. Don't confuse personal experience with actual fact. There's no good reason to keep strategies for yourself in what's supposed to be a friendly game.
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I've never heard of that. In fact a good many of the new players have probably never heard of it either. Don't confuse personal experience with actual fact. There's no good reason to keep strategies for yourself in what's supposed to be a friendly game.
Well after Sandalak used it I've seen it been used by many Generals all accross the islands. There are two things in this simply put: "Firstly, I've always helped and answered people's questions about strategy, but I haven't gone as far as writing a book on strategy and I think the same goes for several others including Zakky. Hell Zakky told Sirion how to defeat Oligarch even when he had a char in Oligarch, because they asked. I don't see how you can then come up with the above? Secondly, as a General you can see what is happening and adapt and you even have the luxury of seeing battles on multiple different islands in most cases. If you do not spend a minute as General to read those battle reports, why should others tell you step by step what to do?"
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Unlike Gabanus here I actually wrote a lengthy guide! You can even check it out on this forum! It is under BM General Discussion as one of the stickies: http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,5637.0.html (http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,5637.0.html)
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Well after Sandalak used it I've seen it been used by many Generals all accross the islands. There are two things in this simply put: "Firstly, I've always helped and answered people's questions about strategy, but I haven't gone as far as writing a book on strategy and I think the same goes for several others including Zakky. Hell Zakky told Sirion how to defeat Oligarch even when he had a char in Oligarch, because they asked. I don't see how you can then come up with the above? Secondly, as a General you can see what is happening and adapt and you even have the luxury of seeing battles on multiple different islands in most cases. If you do not spend a minute as General to read those battle reports, why should others tell you step by step what to do?"
I never knew about the ability to see battles on other continents, even when I was general. And most of the people who are interested in strategy and such arent in the General position yet. Unlike you, I've actually actively contributed to teaching newer players, especially back when Dwilight University was still an active guild.
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I never knew about the ability to see battles on other continents, even when I was general. And most of the people who are interested in strategy and such arent in the General position yet. Unlike you, I've actually actively contributed to teaching newer players, especially back when Dwilight University was still an active guild.
Now you're just no longer reading what I write and actively provocating, but I'll handle them point by point.
Every battle you are a part of you can look at. That has nothing to do with position and as far as I know Generals have nothing extra there than anyone else. You can ask foreign rulers for battle reports (which I sometimes do) perhaps and analyse them.
Secondly, I have guided and helped a lot of both newer families and families that wanted to learn more. Specifically in Caergoth and Sirion/Oligarch most actively.
My point was that there is a difference between helping people who ask for help or show willingness to learn vs what Zakky did and write a guide. The latter I have not done. The first I have done many times and still do and when I am General I often ask if there are people willing to learn etc and deal with those. I will then not write everybody else about it though, that was my point.
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I wrote a guide so I could just point people toward it instead of answering them every time XD
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I also actively answer questions (I can at least answer with 70% certainty) on the mentor section regarding many things.
Information is not being deprived, please do not accuse others of withholding. No one has said they are not willing to give information.
That is an accusation that is both disrespectful and damaging to a person's reputation.
This is a friendly discussion.
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Another big battle :o
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Another big battle :o
And another defeat for the alliance of 5. I am certainly biased, but by now the story and defence of First Oligarch is taking mythic proportions.
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And who knows maybe loose lips will FINALLY start to sink ships... unlikely ;)
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I can't complain, certainly.....
Having siege battles 1 region away from home and 2 from refit, is nice. Almost like playing a point and click game... :-\
The spirit of Primus is Strong in these Walls!
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I can't complain, certainly.....
Having siege battles 1 region away from home and 2 from refit, is nice. Almost like playing a point and click game... :-\
The spirit of Primus is Strong in these Walls!
Becoming 'strange' for us as well as we can't walk outside of Oligarch anymore without a 5k peasant militia spawning. So all we can do is sit inside the city waiting untill Caligus has refitted again. The truly fun parts of the war are long over I'm afraid.
But yeah the spirit of Primus is strong in this Oligarch! Prob happy that we named our army after him as well.
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Oligarch... survived quite awhile but looks like she is finally coming to an end.
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Oligarch... survived quite awhile but looks like she is finally coming to an end.
I was wondering how their walls were doing with those massive battles going on. Not well I take it?
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Surely Perdan will honor their new alliance and march their whole army north to defend the poor Oligarchs?
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Surely Perdan will honor their new alliance and march their whole army north to defend the poor Oligarchs?
Doubt it.
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Oligarch put itself in this situation and deserves what it gets.
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Oligarch put itself in this situation and deserves what it gets.
Harsh but true
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Oligarch put itself in this situation and deserves what it gets.
Next time someone offers to aid me when I'm fighting an even war I'll be sure to invite them and destroy those who oppose me. Lesson learned, although that's prob not what you meant.
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Yeah, I have no clue what you mean, so probably not what I meant.
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Yeah, I have no clue what you mean, so probably not what I meant.
When Perdan/Vix offered to aid, I think even before the Eponllyn war, or during, I threathened them on the ruler channel that they shouldn't come because Sirion vs Oligarch was an internal 1 on 1 conflict...my worst threat ever in hindsight.
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When Perdan/Vix offered to aid, I think even before the Eponllyn war, or during, I threathened them on the ruler channel that they shouldn't come because Sirion vs Oligarch was an internal 1 on 1 conflict...my worst threat ever in hindsight.
Which let them focus their attention on Xavax...thanks for that, Pal...lol
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When Perdan/Vix offered to aid, I think even before the Eponllyn war, or during, I threathened them on the ruler channel that they shouldn't come because Sirion vs Oligarch was an internal 1 on 1 conflict...my worst threat ever in hindsight.
And then Eponllyn defended Oligarch from their intervention. And Perdan broke every agreement, as is its usual dishonourable self. And then (this is the part I was referencing) Garas left Eponllyn out to dry because Garas greedily demanded a city from Sirion, who had accepted Brock's ceasefire offer. If Garas had also accepted Brock's offer, Oligarch wouldn't be fighting off all these enemies. But Garas overstretched and Oligarch is suffering the consequences.
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And then Eponllyn defended Oligarch from their intervention. And Perdan broke every agreement, as is its usual dishonourable self. And then (this is the part I was referencing) Garas left Eponllyn out to dry because Garas greedily demanded a city from Sirion, who had accepted Brock's ceasefire offer. If Garas had also accepted Brock's offer, Oligarch wouldn't be fighting off all these enemies. But Garas overstretched and Oligarch is suffering the consequences.
Might I remind you that Eponllyn didn't defend Oligarch but Nivemus and Sirion in stead. Oligarch did tell Nivemus/Sirion/Eponllyn that it would ally with them should they invade if they agreed (which they didn't when it was only Eponllyn though) but also that if that didn't happen we'd still let Perdan do whatever they wanted.
As to the second part, yup I did overstretch their. But at the same time Sirion did not accept, they demanded we hand over Montijo/Braga/Dulbin to them. But that was a mistake on both Oligarch's (mine really) and Sirion's part combined, although Sirion had a longer history of not wishing to help you, but that's another story.
Both the above things (threathening Perdan/Vix and later demanding Krimml) I consider mistakes I made, but done is done. It was all done to try and make the north and the game the most fun for everyone and in part I succeeded and in part I failed. And when I say I, I really mean we cause a lot of players joined me in this quest.
Now it has come to an end :(
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You northerners...so complicated. Things are so much simpler in the South
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Eponllyn ain't northerners, they are displaced southerners!
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But at the same time Sirion did not accept, they demanded we hand over Montijo/Braga/Dulbin to them.
That is not true. Sirion did accept. I saw it.
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That is not true. Sirion did accept. I saw it.
They accepted, then not, then yet, then not and had to think a bit more. There was nothing definite, that is something I learned the hard way twice :p
But it all matters little now, Eponllyn got hammered and now did Oligarch. Garas just issued his personal surrender to end the war. It was a fun ride as long as it lasted.
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IMO the island should go back to a North VS South scale war.
But it seems to be easier to fight the closest enemy nowadays. Also, Perdan has been slow to unite the south compared to last time. While Oligarch has become a thorn in the North's heels.
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Oligarch has finally lost a battle in their own capital. That only took a year I think?
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IMO the island should go back to a North VS South scale war.
But it seems to be easier to fight the closest enemy nowadays. Also, Perdan has been slow to unite the south compared to last time. While Oligarch has become a thorn in the North's heels.
I disagree with that completely. Close range wars, as long as they're somewhat fair, are 1000x more fun than those long distance huge wars. But I suppose not all agree as we're still fighting :p
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What a time for wounds to worsen... :o
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What a time for wounds to worsen... :o
I always get wounded for 4/5 days every time i face those walls. It is becoming a bad habit...
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I always get wounded for 4/5 days every time i face those walls. It is becoming a bad habit...
Well you won't have to do it anytime soon anymore anyway ;)
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I always get wounded for 4/5 days every time i face those walls. It is becoming a bad habit...
Isn't Sandra 900 years old though... Each time Catherine has announced a pregnancy to Garas (twice) she has been ambushed by Ecthelion and this pattern of wounds deteriorating has begun... can that be a coincidence lol :o
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Wounded again.......
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Sonya, that'll teach you!
And with Sirion's refusal of their own peace terms (I guess they ddin't think we'd accept them?) this is the end of Oligarch...again. To be continued...
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Heh, but nothing is as fun as Oligarch/me is now just waiting for Perdan and Eponllyn to jump in as well and welcome them ;D
Bah, Selenia made plenty of offers for FO to join them. Catherine just doesn't like her very much :(
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Bah, Selenia made plenty of offers for FO to join them. Catherine just doesn't like her very much :(
Yes something about abandon your realm, we'll give you a poor city in the south farthest away from anyone and all the fun? Something like that right? :o
I should update the following though. Sirion refused peace after which Eponllyn and Caligus left the war and Nivemus seems to be considering it. Strange stuff...strange stuff and here I was already preparing my char to move along with Catherine. Now it's all of Oligarch or none moving...tbc
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Yes something about abandon your realm, we'll give you a poor city in the south farthest away from anyone and all the fun? Something like that right? :o
Well when the writing's on the wall, you'd think something would be better than nothing ::)
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Well when the writing's on the wall, you'd think something would be better than nothing ::)
When you offered that it was when it didn't seem the walls would ever be broken. In all honesty, had Zakky not helped them out with settings the walls would prob still be levl 5.
And well you obviously don't know Garas and Catherine yet ;D
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Fair enough sir Fair enough!
Frankly if it were me and there was even a glimmer of hope, I would have stuck to the walls as well. When they finally fell, I was actually surprised the North finally got their act together
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You just need to use the right settings with the right units and you can crush any city.
Of course you need at least the same CS as the city you are attacking. It is a lot better than what it used to be like though. You used to need at least double.
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Fair enough sir Fair enough!
Frankly if it were me and there was even a glimmer of hope, I would have stuck to the walls as well. When they finally fell, I was actually surprised the North finally got their act together
Yup and then Sirion went a bit crazy and now all their allies but Shadowdale stepped out of the war. Welcome once more to the north 8) I get why people are confused about EC politics hehe
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Then, at dawn, when no one is waiting for... BOOOMM! Atanamir Eyolf Serpentis. Lucky you that he's in Dwilight 8)
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Oh Wow Welcome back!
You know Yeux's kid is running around Xavax atm? I am pretty excited to see so many older players returning this month.
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Then, at dawn, when no one is waiting for... BOOOMM! Atanamir Eyolf Serpentis. Lucky you that he's in Dwilight 8)
I fear no serpentis!
(Goes and runs away for Eduardo's reaction)
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Quite interesting news, it seems Sirion is allowing Oligarch to succesfully TO Commonyr...I'm a bit shocked tbh
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I heard Oligarch captured some Sirion nobles!
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I heard Oligarch captured some Sirion nobles!
Of course we did, our infantry crushed their archers. Although they seem to be coming again with I guess the intend to thin us down.
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Literally cashcows...
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I was wondering after seeing military strenght stats, how could total CS rise from ~8K to almost 50k in a single day(around the 18th of october)?
I think i have never seen that much of a spike before.
Oligarch has many of these spikes, perhaps not all as extreme as this one.
I just cant figure out how a single city can recruit that much men, even with unlimited amounts of gold.
Or are these extremely powerful peasant militia of some kind?
please shed light on the mystery! :P
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Well... if your city is as large as Oligarch, you can summon 40k CS worth of peasants. That is about 8000 peasants. The sheer number alone and destroy most player fielded army. And it is literally free. You can use it as long as there are no peasant and your ruler has enough prestige. You can just invest afterward to repair the damage.
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Well... if your city is as large as Oligarch, you can summon 40k CS worth of peasants. That is about 8000 peasants. The sheer number alone and destroy most player fielded army. And it is literally free. You can use it as long as there are no peasant and your ruler has enough prestige. You can just invest afterward to repair the damage.
How does this work, anyways? Just in the capital?
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How does this work, anyways? Just in the capital?
Some of the spikes are due to us recruiting like crazy and Garas putting up quite some militia. But the huge huge spikes are peasant militia yeah, think we used it twice?
You need to have something like max 3 regions (doing this by heart but it's in the ballpark) and the enemy must have more troops in your realm than you do. Then you can call it and it gets called in all your regions. Oligarch only has one though, but with almost 70k pop we raise them big.
The last battle was fought hardly without peasants by our side however save for like 2k cs worth remaining.
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Of course we did, our infantry crushed their archers. Although they seem to be coming again with I guess the intend to thin us down.
Impressive!
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Impressive!
Even more impressive since Garas is the worst General ever prob if you ask(ed) Sirion after he secceeded ;D
Even with Zakky's help with settings they are always one step behind us, but let's see how long that'll stay like that cause now it's becoming more a poker game than anything else. Unfortunately Oligarch can't really afford many mistakes here where Sirion can just get their ass kicked and return.
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All hail the Prince of Oligarch for he has come of age!
New Knight of Oligarch (12 hours, 12 minutes ago)
message to all nobles of First Oligarch
A new knight has emerged from among the ranks of the First Oligarch nobles. Goran Gabanus Leroux has taken up the vacant Western farms estate in the region of Oligarch and started his career today.
You can check the background of this family or send a welcome message.
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Why hello there people, that would be me ! Goran *chuckles*
I suppose I should keep an eye out here ? Seeing as somehow Iv'e been dumped with responsibilities :P
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Welcome and good luck, by the way ;)
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Wait a sec... did I understood it correctly? You started RP fling, uhm... (1 ig year is ~3 irl months so 17*3=51/12=4.25), you started RP fling over 4 years ago that brought a new character to life (or to active life) just now? Goddamn, is it awesome or what?! :D
Random stuff in BM keeps surprising the living manure out of me every now and then.
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good for oligarch to have some leroux blood in the ol family tree
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Yeah wish me luck in that one, leading anything isn't particularly my strong point xD But yeah, gotta play the character so don't have much of a choice, any advice ?