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BattleMaster => Development => Feature Requests => Topic started by: Bendix on January 24, 2014, 01:55:27 AM
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The idea is simple enough: grant either the Ruler or Judge the ability to name a foreign Noble as an "Enemy of the Realm", and therefore prevent them from joining said realm. Instead of having to ban Nobles that join the realms of their enemies with malicious purpose, it would prevent them from doing so at all.
A few possible caveats that would make it interesting:
-Could only be done once per day (every two turns), or have some time-based restriction.
-The Noble invoking the ban loses points of honor and/or prestige by doing so. The higher the honor and/or prestige of the Noble being declared as an enemy, the greater the loss on the Ruler/Judge who does so.
-Could only be done against Nobles of foreign realms that are 'Peace' or lower in diplomacy, or some other diplomacy-based restriction.
-Could not be done against Diplomats.
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The feature you're looking for is, quite simply, a ban. Yes, it's only possible in certain circumstances, and there are reasons for that.
I really, seriously doubt we'd ever implement something like this that is a nearly total duplicate in functionality of an existing feature.
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Indeed, why bother losing h/p over someting you could easily do for free the moment the guy joins you?
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For RP reasons. There are a half dozen nobles on FEI that Velax has declared Enemies of the Empire. He'd happily have a game mechanic way of declaring them thus as well.
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For RP reasons. There are a half dozen nobles on FEI that Velax has declared Enemies of the Empire. He'd happily have a game mechanic way of declaring them thus as well.
For RP reasons is a poor reason as it can simply be roleplayed then as you already are. Its a waste of dev time to create a feature that has basically no use as it can already be done via roleplaying/sending letters which is certainly preferred by the devs instead of people replacing interaction with button clicking.
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I didn't say it should be implemented for RP reasons. I said that if it were, I would "bother losing H/P" using it for RP reasons. And if that's the reason I chose in this hypothetical situation, it's not really up to you to decree it poor, awesome or otherwise.
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I didn't say it should be implemented for RP reasons. I said that if it were, I would "bother losing H/P" using it for RP reasons. And if that's the reason I chose in this hypothetical situation, it's not really up to you to decree it poor, awesome or otherwise.
My apologies, that wasn't clear. Nonetheless, there is no good reason to implement it. If we had unlimited devs, sure it would be an ok feature to implement but we don't.
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Its game breaking. Enemy noble in your dungeon? "Declare enemy, execute." Would really make wars pretty bitter.
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Its game breaking. Enemy noble in your dungeon? "Declare enemy, execute." Would really make wars pretty bitter.
I don't think that's the point at all, and in fact should not be part of the mechanic. If it were, I'd agree with you it would be game-breaking.
What's requested is a way to deny to the enemy noble the opportunity to join the realm.
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I think what the OP wants is the ability to ban people even when they're not currently part of the realm. That would solve pretty much everything.
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I don't think that's the point at all, and in fact should not be part of the mechanic. If it were, I'd agree with you it would be game-breaking.
What's requested is a way to deny to the enemy noble the opportunity to join the realm.
It would have to be a separate mechanic from a ban, because if it operated as one, that possibility is there. Whether its the point or not, if its doable, it will be done. Though honestly there are times where all of us wish we could just execute anyone and everyone we can lay our hands on (from enemy realms).
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It would have to be a separate mechanic from a ban,
Yes, indeed.
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My intent here is just to brainstorm and see what sticks. Really, I just feel its a missing component of international relations- there should be a way for a ruler/government to say "We don't like this person. They cannot seek refuge in our lands."
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I think what the OP wants is the ability to ban people even when they're not currently part of the realm. That would solve pretty much everything.
Is this possible? I would even go for a restriction to former realm members. I find it interesting that a noble who betrays the realm when they leave is immune to banning, deportation and execution so long as they do not do any illegal acts afterwards. A duke can convert his entire duchy to the enemy realm and if arrested later in battle, the 'enemy of the realm' can't be touched. In reality that noble would be executed on the spot. Or after some torture.
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This could be really cool if you expanded it a bit and if someone from the realm that issued the declaration would automatically enter into battle if they were in the same region as the "enemy of state".
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Is this possible? I would even go for a restriction to former realm members. I find it interesting that a noble who betrays the realm when they leave is immune to banning, deportation and execution so long as they do not do any illegal acts afterwards. A duke can convert his entire duchy to the enemy realm and if arrested later in battle, the 'enemy of the realm' can't be touched. In reality that noble would be executed on the spot. Or after some torture.
It used to be that leaving your realm would automatically generate a ban. I don't recall why this changed.