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BattleMaster => Locals => Far East Island => Topic started by: De-Legro on April 04, 2011, 03:21:06 AM
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So while the slow war continues in the North, the south looks to be suffering. I've heard that several realms are starting to have nobles question the boredom they are experiencing. Anyone got some ideas on how the southern realms can revive interest?
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PoZ actually does something. I was ashamed to have achieved a double tournament victory while a knight of Batesaor when I heard that PoZ had pretty much no form of resistance to Arcaea's raid.
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Thats not quite true. Having GA troops that were allied to Arcaea sit in regions to prevent battles was great resistance. Actually fielding an army that would stop Arcaea, well that might have been another option :)
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There's a newly founded religion that has got some RP going on! ;D
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I think it just needs some vigour. I dunno, the war to the North should export some of the more militaristic nobles of Arcachon south.
Really though, there is no reason anyone can't start an intrigue or a feud. I mean, you don't really need a reason or logic, people just need to get over this idea that losing is something terrible.
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I think it just needs some vigour. I dunno, the war to the North should export some of the more militaristic nobles of Arcachon south.
Really though, there is no reason anyone can't start an intrigue or a feud. I mean, you don't really need a reason or logic, people just need to get over this idea that losing is something terrible.
(grins) And as soon as the nobles in Arcachon get over the idea that losing is terrible, we can get right on with that exporting. All I ask is for someone to let Arcaea get enough sympathy in Enlod to colonize, then we can end this whole thing...
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From what I've heard people in the south have painted themselves into a corner. To start a war many of the rulers would basically need to do something that goes against their established characters. There also doesn't seem to be a big enough dissident group in any of the realms to stage a take over and shake things up. What we need is for someone to just go insane and get things started.
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Temporarily, yes, the south can't fight. I'd lay heavy odds that Thain will jump at a chance to do so if he thinks he won't get annihilated, though...And if we can get the north sorted, then sooner or later Jenred'll give him one.
And I'm pretty sure Thain knows it, too.
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(grins) And as soon as the nobles in Arcachon get over the idea that losing is terrible, we can get right on with that exporting. All I ask is for someone to let Arcaea get enough sympathy in Enlod to colonize, then we can end this whole thing...
Losing isn't terrible, but that doesn't mean they wont do their nut to prevent the worst from happening to their realm.
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Losing isn't terrible, but that doesn't mean they wont do their nut to prevent the worst from happening to their realm.
Indeed, indeed, I'm mostly joking (I say mostly because I'm not looking forward to the long slog). Not being able to colonize was annoying, though.
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From what I've heard people in the south have painted themselves into a corner. To start a war many of the rulers would basically need to do something that goes against their established characters. There also doesn't seem to be a big enough dissident group in any of the realms to stage a take over and shake things up. What we need is for someone to just go insane and get things started.
As the only Solari on the continent, I have hereditary dibs!
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Well if the Duke of Batesaor wanted to revive the old pirate realm, I'm certain a popular, trusted and skilled ambassador from Ohnar West would make her way back down to her old home... ;)
Would also be an excuse to check on the temple she left in Paplarmi, which has now been abandoned so I guess it's more "check the ruins of the temple she left in Paplarmi.
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And the former knight who got a double victory in last year's Ohnar West full tournament while knight of Batesaor would go down there to swash some buckles. He even has 0 honor now to make sense in the party!
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Well if the Duke of Batesaor wanted to revive the old pirate realm, I'm certain a popular, trusted and skilled ambassador from Ohnar West would make her way back down to her old home... ;)
Would also be an excuse to check on the temple she left in Paplarmi, which has now been abandoned so I guess it's more "check the ruins of the temple she left in Paplarmi.
Aren't Pirates on the list of things Tom really doesn't want to see in the game?
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Madina...
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All because they exist doesn't mean Tom necessarily wants them in the game, or would appreciate the concept spreading further. Just tells me it doesn't annoy him enough to do something about. The issue was always that Tom didn't consider pirate activities suitable for his vision of nobility in the time frame.
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It goes almost hand-in-hand with the fact that no matter how many times it's stated that (rogue) should be the least desirable position for any character, be it noble or commoner, still there is no small number of players who appear to think it is "awesome" or something.
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True, and the constant request that we be allowed to play in rogue bandit realms. Unless Tom wants to punish any infringement against his "vision", its up to the players to either support his position, or ignore them I guess.
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Aren't Pirates on the list of things Tom really doesn't want to see in the game?
Tom never had a problem with Batesaor before. To be honest, PoZ and Batesaor were two of the coolest concepts of the nascent FEI. Arcaea was rather vanilla and boring. Funny how things have played out. :D
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I'm not going to rule it out if we get really bored, but I've never really been happy with Batesaor being called the 'Pirate City,' simply because most people when they think of pirates tend to think of something non-medieval. If I can get people thinking of the pirates of Batesaor in a different way, then . . . well, perhaps. Maybe after the semester is over I'll have enough time for the RP on it.
Though there is the issue that the Duke of Batesaor is also probably the most loyal Zonasan after the Regent. But we are getting kinda bored, so you never know. . . .
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I think this rebellion might revive things a bit... ;D
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Nah. The south was on the move before, now with the rebels probably less so. You can't tell me you aren't pleased by that ;p
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;D
It's possible I am...But I have a feeling the south is going to be much more lively in the long run without Ziode on the throne.
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Not to give too much away, but, liveliness really doesn't seem to be what the rebels want. I'm kind of confused, actually. I've never seen a rebellion in favor of becoming *less* active.
Jenred and James, controlling the souls of our dukes. Curse you!
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Not to give too much away, but if you think people that Jenred influences are going to be staying at peace for any period of time, then you clearly do not know Jenred as well as you might think. ;)
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He's like Sosuke Aizen without the zanpakto or the hogyouku. /me should probably stop watching that anime now...
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It's more along the lines of too many people in Kindara being loyal to their old realms. We're made of a lot of realms, so if everyone has their way, we'll never fight anyone. Of course, some people have no intention of letting everyone have their way >.>
And yes, Artemesia, he's a bit like that. Except in BM no one is surprised when their strongest attacks fail and Jenred saunters out of the rubble unscathed :p
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It's more along the lines of too many people in Kindara being loyal to their old realms. We're made of a lot of realms, so if everyone has their way, we'll never fight anyone. Of course, some people have no intention of letting everyone have their way >.>
Well, sometime soon Kindara will have to pick a side...Or effectively pick the winning side by not choosing.
And yes, Artemesia, he's a bit like that. Except in BM no one is surprised when their strongest attacks fail and Jenred saunters out of the rubble unscathed :p
No idea who that is, and I don't think there's been a single conflict Jenred's emerged from unscathed...And besides, he's only been the big man on the island since Soliferum fell!
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Well, sometime soon Kindara will have to pick a side...Or effectively pick the winning side by not choosing.
No idea who that is, and I don't think there's been a single conflict Jenred's emerged from unscathed...And besides, he's only been the big man on the island since Soliferum fell!
That's because Jenred doesn't have the imba gear.
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Well, sometime soon Kindara will have to pick a side...Or effectively pick the winning side by not choosing.
I'm fairly certain they had picked a side . . . then the rebellion happened, which as far as I know, puts things back to square one as far as diplomacy.
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I'm fairly certain they had picked a side . . . then the rebellion happened, which as far as I know, puts things back to square one as far as diplomacy.
Ziode had picked a side. Do not confuse a Ruler with a Realm. Do that and...Well...You end up seeking refuge in Zonasa.
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Ha, true enough.
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Ziode picked Zonasa. He had offers from half of the continent to join them, and had he picked Cathay, as he was invited there, this war might be singing a very different tune. (Zonasa, Cathay, C'thonia, Aenilia, and letters asking him to return to Kindara to try and retake the throne) ;D
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Don't know how much success he would have had "retaking the throne". It wasn't just a tiny group that was opposed to Ziode - there were plenty that were unhappy with the way the realm was going, even if they weren't upset enough to start a rebellion. Lowering all the diplomatic relations before he left was seen as quite petty, too, no matter what justification was given for it.
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Ziode picked Zonasa. He had offers from half of the continent to join them, and had he picked Cathay, as he was invited there, this war might be singing a very different tune. (Zonasa, Cathay, C'thonia, Aenilia, and letters asking him to return to Kindara to try and retake the throne) ;D
Wait so you couldn't hold on to your own throne after marching to war, but some how equate being invited to join Cathay as a indication you would have been able to reverse their decision? Was the vote to join the war against a realm that had violated the peace treaties Cathay brokered really so close that one new member to the realm was going to make that much difference?
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Ziode can do all sorts of crazy things if he tries. *shrugs* I don't understand him one bit. Really, the comment was that Ziode wasn't seeking refuge in Zonasa. He had plenty of options, and honestly, from what I've seen and heard, he wouldn't have to try much to do anything in Cathay.
As to the number of rebels, I don't think he'd care. Since the most common complaints that he saw was, "you aren't talking to us" over things that were months in the making and were well known, or when they were asking for information he didn't have. I think my favorite was, "we want to go to war, but when you didn't pick Zonasa or C'thonia we're going to whine that you hate Arcaea, because OW isn't our ally, and when you offered, Arcaea wasn't involved at all." Maybe Ziode read it all differently, but that's what I saw.
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No, the issue was that most in the realm had no idea what was going on. As a relatively new member (three months now), I did what I could to try and understand what was going on in the inner workings of the realm. I joined the Military Council, I spoke regularly to the judge and the general. I spoke regularly to my liege. And you know what they told me? That they had little idea what was going on in the internal workings of the realm either. You can blame other people for your deposing if you wish, but it comes down to the fact that the rank and file of the realm's nobles, and even some of the higher ups, had little idea what was going into the major decisions that affected us. Most of the time we didn't even know that there was a decision to be made until well after it was finalised. I believe that was your failing as our ruler.
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Yes, and in 3 months, I shared every event with the councils that happened publicly. I don't have any idea what happened privately. The biggest problem was when Ziode told Lazarath something he was considering (moving to help GA should something come to pass) and he rallied the army. Of course I had brought the possibility of the war (not joining) to the council, and the army rallying this was honestly a few hours before I could get back and update everyone and propose the topic.
By the time anyone even tried to listen to what Ziode was saying, he'd already done his best to say he wasn't making decisions without them and that Lazarath crossed the line, but since no one seemed to care, he said let's help defend GA from Ohnar West. He offered, and that became, "You can't stand against Arcaea!" before Arcaea was involved.
The issue with the Far East is that it gets really quiet, and then explodes into wars. If there's nothing being said, then there's nothing to report. Honestly, Ziode started to teach other nobles some of the ways of FEI politics because it was something to do... There was no secret councils or anything. Just a group of advanced students that Ziode picked to have others lead.
Actually, I was working towards stepping down with Ziode, and was going to push for Min, Lazarath, or Edmund to take his place in the elections, and then delete Ziode after a couple of weeks. Way to screw that up :P Now he's living in Zonasa where he can be more of a nuisance to the FEI.
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And yes, Artemesia, he's a bit like that. Except in BM no one is surprised when their strongest attacks fail and Jenred saunters out of the rubble unscathed :p
When will people realize that the gods smile upon Jenred! He personally and Arcaea generally have had some really handy turns of the cards. At some point you have to figure that he's got an in with the higher powers.
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Have you seen the number of woundings Jenred has? I think every nation has gotten a lick in on him and he's not even a front line berzerker (No-one should be suprised when Thain or Ciann go down in a heap, for example).
The years have really tallied up on him to boot and if I remember correctly as you gain years injuries get longer and longer to heal from. I would say Jenred has payed a huge price-tag for his empire and I'm not sure it could survive without him at this point.
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He is a front line kind of guy, though. Front lines, hard-hitting infantry, usually wedge formation. He does get wounded a lot...Which works, as he is rather convinced that blood has supernatural properties, and thinks of all his woundings as part of the price for success. Which, of course, is quite true if not in the way he thinks.
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When will people realize that the gods smile upon Jenred! He personally and Arcaea generally have had some really handy turns of the cards. At some point you have to figure that he's got an in with the higher powers.
Usually that's the cue for the other mortals to shift the tides. Then again, who knows. Maybe FEI might be dominated peerlessly by Arcaea.
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Usually that's the cue for the other mortals to shift the tides. Then again, who knows. Maybe FEI might be dominated peerlessly by Arcaea.
Jenred would have to die for that to happen. If his plans work the way he hopes they will, Arcaea will be considerably less powerful in the medium term.
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Tom never had a problem with Batesaor before. To be honest, PoZ and Batesaor were two of the coolest concepts of the nascent FEI. Arcaea was rather vanilla and boring. Funny how things have played out. :D
Our initial dive into what would become Arcachon /Mazdragul with Seraphina and the Overlord was quite fun.
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From what I've heard people in the south have painted themselves into a corner. To start a war many of the rulers would basically need to do something that goes against their established characters. There also doesn't seem to be a big enough dissident group in any of the realms to stage a take over and shake things up. What we need is for someone to just go insane and get things started.
Does a reincarnated original FEI realm founder slash self-declared deity returning to the realm who betrayed her and her people count as a shake up?
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Does a reincarnated original FEI realm founder slash self-declared deity returning to the realm who betrayed her and her people count as a shake up?
Yes, it does. Especially shortly after Orphaea returning. You might actually succeed in resurrecting the Aenilic faith.
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Does a reincarnated original FEI realm founder slash self-declared deity returning to the realm who betrayed her and her people count as a shake up?
I'd say so. I've been following the RP so far with great interest! :P