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BattleMaster => BM General Discussion => Topic started by: Qyasogk on July 27, 2013, 01:14:17 AM
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Seriously? Am I the only person who would like to play on more than 2 islands?
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Mrh? Not sure what you mean. I have active characters on five different islands.
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Seriously? Am I the only person who would like to play on more than 2 islands?
If you are new you have to earn 5 fame, which happened for me rather quickly so I don't know why you can't play on at least 3 islands.
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If you are new you have to earn 5 fame, which happened for me rather quickly so I don't know why you can't play on at least 3 islands.
Mrh? Not sure what you mean. I have active characters on five different islands.
Oh god, not this again. This is something that the older players will never understand, and frankly I'm sick of it. The fame system is horribly biased. Not only will older players already have an advantage in getting the higher positions such as Ruler and Duke, where much of the fame is focused, but they will have more characters as well, which allows them more opportunities to do so than normal players.
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Fame points newbies can easily get:
1. 10 prestige for 1 character
2. 20 prestige for family (10 per character)
3. Purchase a unique item (or is it make one? not completely sure)
4. Lordship (seriously, they aren't hard to get)
5. 20 prestige for 1 character
Bam, there's your 5 fame.
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Pretty sure it should be made so that it is fast to achieve without focusing on it explicitly. I can easily see people playing quietly for 3+ months without getting 5 fame.
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Fame points newbies can easily get:
1. 10 prestige for 1 character
2. 20 prestige for family (10 per character)
3. Purchase a unique item (or is it make one? not completely sure)
4. Lordship (seriously, they aren't hard to get)
5. 20 prestige for 1 character
Bam, there's your 5 fame.
after get lordship, create new guild and you will get 2 fame..
But i also see many new player need more than 4 month to get 5 fame..
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after get lordship, create new guild and you will get 2 fame..
Creating a guild just to get the fame is some of the lamest fame whoring there is.
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Creating a guild just to get the fame is some of the lamest fame whoring there is.
If it was just a score I'd agree with you, but considering your character count depends on it I can't blame anyone for doing it.
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Get off your high horse, Gustav. The original post made no sense, as it was posted OT in the middle of a different discussion. Which is why I was posting trying to find out what he meant. A simple explanation without the self-righteous anger would have been much better.
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Get off your high horse, Gustav. The original post made no sense, as it was posted OT in the middle of a different discussion. Which is why I was posting trying to find out what he meant. A simple explanation without the self-righteous anger would have been much better.
If you still don't get why I'm angry, you've obviously not tried to introduce multiple people to the game only to have them quit because they couldn't find anything interesting with only two nobles, only to have someone who's been in the game for ages go "what do you mean? I have tons of fame and have active characters on five continents."
I've been in the game for near three years on this account and couldn't do that even with donating.
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I completely understand what you're saying. I have advocated removing the medal-based restrictions, and going back to the 3-character starting limit. But if you're helping them, why can't you send them to a good, active realm?
And I'm still not sure how I am supposed to hav interpreted a completely tangential OT post of "am I the only one that wants to play on more than two islands" to mean "I don't like the two-character limit for new accounts". Instead of going non-linear, all you had to do was say "he's talking about the new-account restriction of two noble characters". Then we could agree, and move on.
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I completely understand what you're saying. I have advocated removing the medal-based restrictions, and going back to the 3-character starting limit. But if you're helping them, why can't you send them to a good, active realm?
And I'm still not sure how I am supposed to hav interpreted a completely tangential OT post of "am I the only one that wants to play on more than two islands" to mean "I don't like the two-character limit for new accounts". Instead of going non-linear, all you had to do was say "he's talking about the new-account restriction of two noble characters". Then we could agree, and move on.
+1 Yep. Send them to active and interesting realms instead of your inactive and boring realm :p
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Back in my day it took a year to get a lordship, and longer to rule, and we only had three islands, and we liked it! Get off my lawn!
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+1 Yep. Send them to active and interesting realms instead of your inactive and boring realm :p
You realize that to anyone who is just joining, active and interesting only applies to a very small minority of realms.
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Back in my day it took a year to get a lordship, and longer to rule, and we only had three islands, and we liked it! Get off my lawn!
^ This. I used to get 47 gold a week and I thought I was getting paid decently. I was really happy when my lord raised my income to 90. Good old days... now no one wants to become a knight of a region with 47 gold.
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LOL i remember back then I used to balance my gold/bonds distribution so that I wont get taxed...
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I think we should get on and attempt to help this young sapling. Rather than going back and forth regarding the medal issue. Should probably take it to that thread. Our personal snipes at the way it used to be and is now isn't going to help this player.
@Qyasogk. At first the games gives you the chance to experience a limited amount so you can further focus on building some knowledge and begin interacting with the other characters/players in your realm. As you grow it gives you the perks of having another character in time. It is best to learn the fundamental and get questions asked during this time. It's like a great time to learn and grow within the realm and to even search around and try different realms out, before settling.
I'd use the time to ask about active realms and to get into the role-plays.
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Ok, a couple things:
My original post was about the 1 character restriction on Dwilight. I was wondering if people wouldn't mind that restriction if they could play on every island (which I wish I could do.)
I've been playing since January, both of my nobles are Lords (I aggressively pursued a Lordship as soon as one was open to me.) I've accumulated 88 honor and 35 prestige, but I only have 3 fame. I am very active and play every day, so I don't see how I could've accumulated fame any faster.
Especially since Battlemaster is short of players it seems especially counterintuitive to artificially prevent people that would like to participate on more islands from doing so.
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Fame points newbies can easily get:
1. 10 prestige for 1 character
2. 20 prestige for family (10 per character)
3. Purchase a unique item (or is it make one? not completely sure)
4. Lordship (seriously, they aren't hard to get)
5. 20 prestige for 1 character
Bam, there's your 5 fame.
I have achieved 1, 2, 4 twice (guess you only get the fame point once?)
I have never seen a unique item for sale. And I use my adventurer full time gathering items (rare and risky). I've never found a unique item, but I have been told that some of the rare & valuable items can be turned into a unique item by a sage, but I don't know if its true. Anyway trying to locate a sage is like looking for unicorns.
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Qyasogk
Yes, you only get the lord fame once.
If I haven't looked at your family page, but I think you currently have 1,4,5 and I'm not sure of two cause you need two character to get 10 prestige each. However, if you do have two char with over 10 prestige each then you have 2 also. Coming to 4 Fame.
Hoard your gold and stash it to you family... Will become useful later when you wish to create more characters.
Unique items are not each to come by that is for certain, though I have rather good luck.
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Drop 150 gold with one of you lords and start a guild. There's your two fame to hit 5. A bit of metagaming/fame whoring, but ... meh. It's harmless, and not against the rule.
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A bit of metagaming/fame whoring, but ... meh. It's harmless, and not against the rule.
In fact, I think that's the point of the fame system. It goads you into doing things you may not do otherwise because you are already comfortable the way your characters are. If everyone if comfortable, then nothing ever happens. This guild could end up changing the face of your island! Or, most probably, not. It doesn't matter, you tried, that's the important.
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If I haven't looked at your family page, but I think you currently have 1,4,5 and I'm not sure of two cause you need two character to get 10 prestige each. However, if you do have two char with over 10 prestige each then you have 2 also. Coming to 4 Fame.
Both of my nobles have over 10 prestige, but no single character has 20 prestige.
Anyway, you guys are talking to me as if my goal was to increase my fame, which is not the case.
What I would like to do is play on more islands, and I'm surprised given the need for more players, that the devs don't enable and encourage everyone to be able to play at least one character on every island.
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In fact, I think that's the point of the fame system. It goads you into doing things you may not do otherwise because you are already comfortable the way your characters are. If everyone if comfortable, then nothing ever happens. This guild could end up changing the face of your island! Or, most probably, not. It doesn't matter, you tried, that's the important.
I'm still trying to find those last 8 points of fame.... since rebellion isn't one of them I'm stuck scratching my head now. Also I have three points I have zero idea where they came from.
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Maybe turning 100? :P
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I have never seen a unique item for sale. And I use my adventurer full time gathering items (rare and risky). I've never found a unique item, but I have been told that some of the rare & valuable items can be turned into a unique item by a sage, but I don't know if its true. Anyway trying to locate a sage is like looking for unicorns.
Come to Beluaterra and you may buy unique item..
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I start play BM since late december and now i have 13 fame, 3 medal..
Maybe luck and some effort to search anything related about fame in wiki has help me.. :)
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Maybe turning 100? :P
I can confirm that 100 did not give a fame point. (Also it's been said that character age specifically does not give it, only actions and things you can 'do' in the game)
Edit: It also kills me that I'm not #1 in fame! I knew for a long time that I didn't have the tourney fame, but I finally got it. Maybe I need to host a tournament successfully again? It's been a long time and I'm not entirely certain I have it.
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A hidden fame
Collecting bounty?
Injuring x amount of characters?
Assassinating a Ruler?
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I think we definitely need to allow newer accounts to get more nobles a little quicker. That's a decision that Tom will have to make. (Unless Tim wants to take it on himself...)
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I definitely think that new players should start with 3 nobles per account, not 2. I'm still convinced that allowing new players to start playing an adventurer from the beginning is a poor idea and should be held back for a period of time while they learn the main noble game. BM is primarily social and adventurers, unless you land in or know to travel to an advy-involved vicinity, are primarily loners. Nobles get much more social interaction and should thus be more readily available to new players.
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Fame whoring for character slots is stupid and everyone should stop talking about it.
2 nobles + advy + (noble&4th slot) after a week or so should be standard
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Fame whoring for character slots is stupid and everyone should stop talking about it.
2 nobles + advy + (noble&4th slot) after a week or so should be standard
No. They should get 3 noble slots off the start. Screw waiting a week.
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cat is fine too
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I liked the old system where you get 3 nobles as long as you show your details, though I am fine with letting people have 3 nobles without needing to show their details, but there really should be a way to encourage people to publish their details, it's so foreign to not know the players you are playing with.