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BattleMaster => Locals => Beluaterra => Topic started by: Noone you know on February 15, 2016, 01:37:05 AM
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Depending where you are on the island, you're prolly getting a completely different experience.
So far in the North, it seems to be a lot of "run back and forth squelching fires". I can see the life and death aspect of fighting the giant hordes in the south gives more to RP, but still it seems like "oh, you held out against that giant horde? ok, here's one twice the size"
I'm fine - think it's a fun idea - to have our backs to the wall, fighting till the last. But with no mortality, and no end game to figure out, it seems a bit repetitive.
Is there more coming, I hope?
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I think quoting [and minor edits in brackets] the relevant section of the Big Announcement may be somewhat helpful:
2) Monster spawn and behavior on testing islands (Dwilight and Beluaterra) will change. Monster/undead travel will no longer be random. They will prefer to attack regions based on several regional characteristics, such as whether or not the region has a lord, occupied and/or vacant estates, fortifications, or militia. When character-per-region density drops below a preset threshold, monster/undead spawn rates will increase [within rogue regions], and they will begin to actively seek out and take over regions. Once character-per-region density goes above the threshold, the monsters/undead will return to their normal spawn rates and behavior. For Dwilight, the majority of monsters will no longer be confined to the west.
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So we should just give up & retreat to a smaller area? And then...never take back any more regions so we don't re-ignite the hordes. And then fight each other for the "allowed" amount of land, while traveling across wastelands?
Ok, I mean I guess that can be a fun thing too.
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Alternatively, you could fight to keep your land while getting the beasts to eat your enemy's lands?
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I can take a guess at what you mean, but I'm not so sure it is realistic.
And would require immense OOC power-gaming to even think of - we need a few "clues" tossed in.
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Well, it could be taken in a variety of ways. Simply, if you can keep your own regions, thats higher spawn rates that are also hitting your enemy regions, somewhat more effective if your enemy borders more rogue regions than yourself. More nefariously, Beluaterra has summoning scrolls that could be used against one's enemy to give one's enemy a much more difficult challenge than yourself.
Summoning scrolls on BT have both a local and a global spawn increase effect so there is some double-edged aspect. The stacks attacking IVF are probably comprised of a bit of the original rp event inhumans, regular spawns since, and summon scrolls meant to head to Riombara (which they did also somewhat hit) that headed the other direction instead.
Is that what you were looking for or did I misunderstood your direction?
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uh, yeah, but I meant In Game hints, not tell everyone the answer ::)
the first is of course what we are doing for normal reasons. the second would need us to have some reason to pick up and go launch scrolls at them, when our chars don't realize there is a game mechanic determining things that should be a reason to do that, and our chars think beasts are bad so why make more beasts?
I guess something as simple as some Gold messages that RP that idea to characters, so to help them understand the beasts want x% of the island - now fight out who gets what
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Uh have you not seen a single person with their scrolls going off randomly?
We have a duke handing scrolls over like handing over candies. Now my character is carrying a half dozen scrolls.
Also, IVF is probably getting hammered because somebody from north came all the way south to burn all his scrolls...
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The actually daimonic invasion part was cut really short in Ar Agyr, because we super-wounded the demon leader and nothing else happened with that for about a week.
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Uh have you not seen a single person with their scrolls going off randomly?
We have a duke handing scrolls over like handing over candies. Now my character is carrying a half dozen scrolls.
Also, IVF is probably getting hammered because somebody from north came all the way south to burn all his scrolls...
No, I haven't. Been carrying 9 of them for ages, no bad effects.
We experimented with scrolls before the invasion; they take 2 hours each, and didn't really add up to much effect
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For the last year or so, I've realized scrolls haven't done what they advertise and have been making changes. Most of those changes other than the most recent (and I do intend a much-belated recent changes announcement sometime soon here...) are included in the various Recent Changes announcements. In other words, scrolls have more effect than before, though I do not know exactly when you last tested as to know the degree of 'more effect'.
And I guess its just as simple as you have not yet been hit by that feature, nor those of your realm (or they didn't share the info).
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Good to know. I guess my char will just "have a dream" telling him to go flatten realm X with his scrolls :-)
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My character previously decided that since they were using scrolls on us, that we'd return the favor. I think I've also had word of auto-firing scrolls, too.
But, also, I generally work on the assumption that my character knows how the world works, to a certain extent, and thus has some IC justification for how ooc mechanics govern their life. Various other people have put forward the same theory to different extents.
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My advy still hasn't gotten a single scroll.
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I don't think advies find these. They mostly are handed directly to lords via a "we executed a witch in your region, and she had this" game event.
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My character previously decided that since they were using scrolls on us, that we'd return the favor. I think I've also had word of auto-firing scrolls, too.
But, also, I generally work on the assumption that my character knows how the world works, to a certain extent, and thus has some IC justification for how ooc mechanics govern their life. Various other people have put forward the same theory to different extents.
yes, but this is a case of chars knowing why this invasion is happening, and what the objective is. don't think it fits your reasoning.
as for scrolls being more powerful now, I'm sure I can RP something about that easily enough
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Who cares. There are monsters to fight! No time for trying to figure out why they are coming after you! You can make your own RP :)
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Who cares. There are monsters to fight! No time for trying to figure out why they are coming after you! You can make your own RP :)
no the point was, "How do I know they only want x% of the island and if I just go launch all my scrolls in City Y they'll let us be"
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no the point was, "How do I know they only want x% of the island and if I just go launch all my scrolls in City Y they'll let us be"
You're asking the wrong questions.
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Why can't we burn scrolls? These bundles of heresy bring nothing but trouble
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Why can't we burn scrolls? These bundles of heresy bring nothing but trouble
Because then every realm would burn them as a matter of course, and we wouldn't have an arms race going on between invasions.
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You're asking the wrong questions.
I'm NOT asking those questions. I don't have any reasons to ask those questions. I'm asking things based on my previous in-game experiences.
These are the Dark Ages. Our chars don't walk around free-thinking ideas
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I don't think advies find these. They mostly are handed directly to lords via a "we executed a witch in your region, and she had this" game event.
When you meet a sage, they can sometimes makea scroll for you as well. Depending on the sage I think (still new to this advy game). My advy has a fountain of youth scroll because of that, but the monster/undead summoning scrolls are an exception and send to the Lords right away from what I've seen.
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Actually, those aren't sages, but wizards. They're separate, and actually noted as such in the game's text, though not, I admit, terribly prominently.
However, I think wizards can't make summon scrolls.
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Actually, those aren't sages, but wizards. They're separate, and actually noted as such in the game's text, though not, I admit, terribly prominently.
However, I think wizards can't make summon scrolls.
Ah, true! So Wizards make scrolls and Sages make/repair uniques?
To add, the Wizard gave me an option actually for 2 different scrolls and had to choose which one to make.
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Ah, true! So Wizards make scrolls and Sages make/repair uniques?
There's one more thing sages can do with uniques...
To add, the Wizard gave me an option actually for 2 different scrolls and had to choose which one to make.
Ooh, sounds like you got lucky.
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Actually, I'm about 99% sure that wizards do get the option to create Summoning scrolls, along with the others. At least, I've seen the option to create Summoning scrolls with some traveller, somewhere, with my advies.
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There's one more thing sages can do with uniques...
What else can they do? Or do you mean destroy?
Ooh, sounds like you got lucky.
Well he ultimately only made one, but at least I could choose :-)
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What else can they do? Or do you mean destroy?
Nah, anyone can do that. Just sit on it for a while without repairing.
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Nah, anyone can do that. Just sit on it for a while without repairing.
Then what else can a Sage do with an unique?
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Then what else can a Sage do with an unique?
Ask around. It's something that people have found, but it's not very common, and it's one of the things that I'd rather have people discover on their own or from other players than from On High.
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Give it a bit of spit and polish, and maybe a new coat of paint.