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Title: Year 23
Post by: Sypher on April 05, 2013, 09:12:24 AM
Well, its the first day of spring of Year 23 in Dwilight. I thought it might be of value to have a thread to discuss the events that happen during the next in-game year.

Here in the southwest, Falkirk is starting off the year with only it's capital left but Aurvandil has vowed to restore Madina Isle to Falkirk. Aurvandil however faces internal challenges (to put it mildly) and the recent loss of Tovabur on Falmilak Isle to Fissoa. Meanwhile, Luria Nova has been slowly gaining strength as it absorbs the former lands of Luria Vesperi.
Title: Year 23 - Niselur
Post by: Baatarsaikhan on April 05, 2013, 09:38:40 AM
Well, this is only for Iashalur, or Niselur since the rename.


The tale end of the rebellion has more or less arrived, with the formal crowning of the King and his two Dukes.  Things are still somewhat hazy as to the monarchy as a whole, since King Leopold recently invited Sir Tugomir Bribir Lux to the country and set tongues wagging by immediately appointing him General of the Niselur forces.


Plague is in the process of taking four people:

Winter has left, and for once there has been no starvation in any of the regions, despite several knights away crusading, defending the homelands, and the rebellion aftereffects.


Expansion is expected to proceed just as planned, although the low numbers of nobles in the land may present issues with land being properly stewarded.


Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Chenier on April 05, 2013, 12:58:07 PM
The wedding of the Dragon King-elect, Machiavel Chénier (Duke of Paisly, Margrave of Paisland, Royal and Ambassador of D'Hara, etc.) with the deceased king's daughter, Dragon Princess Selena Ironsides, is planned for the first day of Summer, the 26th of April.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Kwanstein on April 05, 2013, 06:52:53 PM
Astrum wins huge victory over Asylon due to incompetent leadership, Asylon destruction imminent.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 07:03:39 PM
Huge victory? You have lost ever fight we've had until this last one.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on April 05, 2013, 07:07:23 PM
Wait... Astrum wins huge victory over Asylon due to incompetent leadership... who's incompetent leadership, Astrum's or Asylons's? ???
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Kwanstein on April 05, 2013, 07:40:54 PM
The incompetence is widespread, no one side in particular is at fault.

Asylon missed a chance at a huge victory, though. Had they attempted to bait the Astrum army with a misdirection rather than with the real thing then they would have annihilated the Astrum vanguard today.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 08:09:27 PM
Yeah would have been nice but it was a risk we couldnt afford to take. Hindsight 20/20. We have a plan but it has nothing to do with fight on Astrums terms lol
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on April 05, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
The incompetence is widespread, no one side in particular is at fault.
Sadly enough, I have to agree with that.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 08:34:40 PM
That being said whatever casus belli Astrum and its alliance is no more and now they wage a war of pure aggression. Asylon fights on alone.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Geronus on April 05, 2013, 08:39:24 PM
That being said whatever casus belli Astrum and its alliance is no more and now they wage a war of pure aggression. Asylon fights on alone.

 ??? Didn't you ally Asylon with Aurvandil? I haven't been on Dwilight in a while, but IMO that's all the casus belli Astrum would ever need, to be honest.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Gustav Kuriga on April 05, 2013, 08:40:15 PM
The Farronite Republic is "welcoming" Allison and her followers, with the ruler Khari trying her best to convince the rest of the realm that we need nobles more than we hate Allison...

Meanwhile, we have vote on and agreed to join the moot... which seems somewhat of a moot point with Terran in the condition that they are in.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on April 05, 2013, 08:47:11 PM
The Farronite Republic is "welcoming" Allison and her followers, with the ruler Khari trying her best to convince the rest of the realm that we need nobles more than we hate Allison...

Meanwhile, we have vote on and agreed to join the moot... which seems somewhat of a moot point with Terran in the condition that they are in.

Psh, boot Allison.

And the future of the Moot... we'll see. Even if Terran doesn't pull through, it's possible Phantaria or Saffalore may eventually want membership.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on April 05, 2013, 08:47:31 PM
Heck, or maybe even Swordfell.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Geronus on April 05, 2013, 08:49:01 PM
Psh, boot Allison.

But she's so much fun. Sure, she's going to be a pain in the ass, but the next six months of your life will be way more interesting with her around than otherwise.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on April 05, 2013, 08:51:39 PM
And the future of the Moot... we'll see. Even if Terran doesn't pull through, it's possible Phantaria or Saffalore may eventually want membership.
You're gonna have to rewrite your charter to let all these realms in. Realms outside your geographical area, realms with the wrong government style... Pretty much everything that made the moot unique and interesting is about to go poof.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Gustav Kuriga on April 05, 2013, 08:59:20 PM
You're gonna have to rewrite your charter to let all these realms in. Realms outside your geographical area, realms with the wrong government style... Pretty much everything that made the moot unique and interesting is about to go poof.

They have rewrote it, or at least agreed to do so.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: sharkattack on April 05, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
So, moot is becoming another coalition of SA?
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Gustav Kuriga on April 05, 2013, 09:06:48 PM
So, moot is becoming another coalition of SA?

lol, no. The Farronite Republic is definitely not a bastion of conservative SA.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on April 05, 2013, 09:21:30 PM
You're gonna have to rewrite your charter to let all these realms in. Realms outside your geographical area, realms with the wrong government style... Pretty much everything that made the moot unique and interesting is about to go poof.

Geographical requirement already changed.

Phantaria and Saffalore's systems are still in flux.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:10:37 PM
lol, no. The Farronite Republic is definitely not a bastion of conservative SA.

Yeah its not like anyone in FR has ever passed on personal correspondence between Council of Mech Albion members to the elders in SA... :P
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:12:46 PM
You're gonna have to rewrite your charter to let all these realms in. Realms outside your geographical area, realms with the wrong government style... Pretty much everything that made the moot unique and interesting is about to go poof.

Funny how Asylon couldnt get into the elite club because of so many reasons that now allow all these new members in , what a bunch of hypocrites. They could have avoided this mess months ago and you guys still allow these guys to make policy in the moot like a bunch of sycophants. What a joke.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Gustav Kuriga on April 05, 2013, 10:14:42 PM
Funny how Asylon couldnt get into the elite club because of so many reasons that now allow all these new members in , what a bunch of hypocrites. They could have avoided this mess months ago and you guys still allow these guys to make policy in the moot like a bunch of sycophants. What a joke.

Funniest part is, they still denied us a part in the Moot anyways...
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:15:13 PM
The Farronite Republic is "welcoming" Allison and her followers, with the ruler Khari trying her best to convince the rest of the realm that we need nobles more than we hate Allison...

Meanwhile, we have vote on and agreed to join the moot... which seems somewhat of a moot point with Terran in the condition that they are in.

So basically you welcome Lady Allison back with open arms, to a realm that was formed from the ashes of her leadership issues, she is a recognized heretic so its no issue and its all a big SA happy family. What a joke...
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:16:08 PM
Funniest part is, they still denied us a part in the Moot anyways...

What a joke ...  ;D
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Gustav Kuriga on April 05, 2013, 10:17:50 PM
So basically you welcome Lady Allison back with open arms, to a realm that was formed from the ashes of her leadership issues, she is a recognized heretic so its no issue with anyone in FR because Gustav has about as many faces as Chenier and its all a big SA happy family. What a joke...

you will notice the quotations around welcome. We're trying to get rid of her. Khari is friendly to Allison though, so that makes it a bit more difficult.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:17:56 PM
Geographical requirement already changed.

Phantaria and Saffalore's systems are still in flux.

Lol what a joke...
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Bael on April 05, 2013, 10:22:54 PM
Funniest part is, they still denied us a part in the Moot anyways...

Well, when one part of the tripartite federation unilaterally invites another realm, which Barca hasn't even spoken to, into the federation...yeah, people will sit up and notice. And mumble about kids playing on their lawn.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:23:12 PM
you will notice the quotations around welcome. We're trying to get rid of her. Khari is friendly to Allison though, so that makes it a bit more difficult.

I just think its all a joke. Where is the courage of your convictions? The ball sack? The spine? How many Asylonian lands were promised this time lol....

The other thing I find hilarious is that Astrum is attacking Asylon for helping destroy a realm they supported Kabrinskia in attacking... Lol what a joke.... Aurvandiil is an ally to achieve that goal we succeeded where Astrum and Kabrinskia failed, where ironically I helped attack a realm I once supported so much... This war is a !@#$show.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on April 05, 2013, 10:25:54 PM
Well, when one part of the tripartite federation unilaterally invites another realm, which Barca hasn't even spoken to, into the federation...yeah, people will sit up and notice. And mumble about kids playing on their lawn.

Worth noting that D'Hara did not think that inviting the Farronite Republic to federation would force Barca into federation as well, and they have said as much.

Meh. I think Barca runs the risk of losing D'Hara as an ally, personally. My gut feeling is that D'Hara cares at least as much about FR's friendship these days as they do about Barca's.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:27:16 PM
So basically you should have let Barca burn like months ago?
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Kwanstein on April 05, 2013, 10:28:47 PM
Dwilight politics really have an "anything goes" vibe to them.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: sharkattack on April 05, 2013, 10:30:10 PM
I agree.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Gustav Kuriga on April 05, 2013, 10:30:23 PM
As Glaumring said, Gustav has many faces. He tries not to let anyone know how he truly feels regarding something if he can help it.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Bael on April 05, 2013, 10:31:15 PM
Yeah, unfortunately characters in Barca seem to be very conservative, for the most part. Which often ends up making for a sucky ally. To quote someone: Barca is very "quiet".
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:35:10 PM
I got in !@#$ for shifting gears on issues before, its the same when you have so many faces its like a chameleon. It comes down to fear, fear of consequence a lesson I learned. The end result of a man is sometimes taking unpopular opinions and riding them straight down to hell no matter the consequence, its not about whether you die, but how you choose to die. This is what seperates a free man from a spineless snake that will do anything to survive. In the end you may outlive all your foes but you will go to your grave a pauper of the soul. What we have in Dwilight are politicians... What we lack are statesmen and nobles.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on April 05, 2013, 10:35:37 PM
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... we succeeded where Astrum and Kabrinskia failed ...
You keep asserting that both sides in that war "failed". The thing is, none of the realms involved in that war *wanted* to destroy anyone. All they wanted was a small border war. No one failed in that. Everyone got exactly what they wanted.

The only realm that wanted to kill another realm was Asylon. And you failed to do it. The only realm that "failed" in that war was Asylon. I'm sorry that's so hard for you to understand, but that's the way it works.

This need to kill realms is really a nasty aspect of how things in the game have been going, in general. It's a vicious spiral where the prospect of being destroyed in any war causes people to bring in lots of allies, which leads to one-sided, realm destroying wars. Which causes people to line up more allies. Begin vicious spiral...

We need more limited wars, fought for small reasons, that end when the small objectives are achieved. We need fewer massive, realm killing wars.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:36:45 PM
Moderator edit: cheating accusations removed. If you have proof, report it. If not, stow it.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:38:51 PM
You keep asserting that both sides in that war "failed". The thing is, none of the realms involved in that war *wanted* to destroy anyone. All they wanted was a small border war. No one failed in that. Everyone got exactly what they wanted.

The only realm that wanted to kill another realm was Asylon. And you failed to do it. The only realm that "failed" in that war was Asylon. I'm sorry that's so hard for you to understand, but that's the way it works.

This need to kill realms is really a nasty aspect of how things in the game have been going, in general. It's a vicious spiral where the prospect of being destroyed in any war causes people to bring in lots of allies, which leads to one-sided, realm destroying wars. Which causes people to line up more allies. Begin vicious spiral...

We need more limited wars, fought for small reasons, that end when the small objectives are achieved. We need fewer massive, realm killing wars.


Says the man with more allies and dead realms under his belt than any other...  Asylon was fighting for its survival against your hegemony. If you want to change Dwilight look at your own massive realm and federations and alliances.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on April 05, 2013, 10:41:11 PM
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Asylon was fighting for its survival against your hegemony.
No, actually, you weren't. No one ever had any intentions of destroying Asylon.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on April 05, 2013, 10:49:26 PM
No, actually, you weren't. No one ever had any intentions of destroying Asylon.

And if there had ever been any attempt to destroy Asylon, Terran's army would have been there in a hurry. No way we were going to let Kabrinskia surround us.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on April 05, 2013, 10:50:15 PM
The end result of a man is sometimes taking unpopular opinions and riding them straight down to hell no matter the consequence, its not about whether you die, but how you choose to die.

lol.

You just described Hireshmont, not Glaumring. Glaumring is a crass, backstabbing opportunist, not an idealist of any kind. At least he doesn't look like one from the outside.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:53:32 PM
No, actually, you weren't. No one ever had any intentions of destroying Asylon.

Oh I see, you didnt want to destroy us just whittle away slowly at our kingdom keeping it in a submissive state...
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:55:01 PM
And if there had ever been any attempt to destroy Asylon, Terran's army would have been there in a hurry. No way we were going to let Kabrinskia surround us.

Yeah, thanks for trying so hard!
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 10:57:10 PM
lol.

You just described Hireshmont, not Glaumring. Glaumring is a crass, backstabbing opportunist, not an idealist of any kind. At least he doesn't look like one from the outside.

Hireshmont isnt as bad as Chenier, you are just a victim of Cheniers influence.


I dont know how standing up for my kingdom against SA hegemony , and being left out of the moot so we had to fend for ourselves equals crass opportunistic... I call it surviving against the odds , building a strong kingdom in a desert , surrounded by schemeing kingdoms that only want our lands.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Geronus on April 05, 2013, 11:08:06 PM
Oh I see, you didnt want to destroy us just whittle away slowly at our kingdom keeping it in a submissive state...

I dont know how standing up for my kingdom against SA hegemony , and being left out of the moot so we had to fend for ourselves equals crass opportunistic... I call it surviving against the odds , building a strong kingdom in a desert , surrounded by schemeing kingdoms that only want our lands.

I don't know what you're talking about. Asylon is the realm with the persecution complex here, that feels it has something to prove at Astrum's expense. Don't project your realm's insecurities on Astrum. When I was there, we could have cared less about Asylon except for the fact that you kept insulting us and talking a big game about how Astrum was in decline and Asylon was the big kid on the block now. Glaumring was obviously spoiling for a fight, just to prove that he was right about Asylon being a Great Power.

Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing that you're out there stoking conflict and making interesting things happen, I just wish you'd stop ascribing false motivations to Astrum on the forum. Astrum probably doesn't care about Asylon at all except insofar as you keep picking fights with them to prove that Asylon is better. Asylon is not and never has been a victim of anything other than its own insecurity since Caerwyn was destroyed. You're Welcome for that, by the way.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 11:17:53 PM
No, actually, you weren't. No one ever had any intentions of destroying Asylon.

Weren't ever any intentions? So when Asylon is attacked by the huge SA alliance it was never intended to destroy us? Just like now? You just want to whittle us down to little bits right? If Asylon ever even managed to grab one piece of land from Astrum it'd be our death knell... Dont you see it is SA that has created this fight to the death, massive alliances , alliances that make no sense like Asylon and Aurvandiil, or the Moot so scared they wont even fight eachother. SA hasnt attacked SA in years, your huge federation/alliance  has created  this fear. When Asylon attacked Kabrinskia it was out of complete fear, our choices were made out of complete fear, fear because Astrum the killer of Caerwyn, of Averoth of Everguard and slayer of Saxon Thulsoma, Virovene I think was setting up a realm next to us that from day one was threatening us and setting up to kill us, to wipe us out and you try to twist this around that Asylon is out to kill all of you? All I have heard since day one of these conflicts is ' oh we will take Itau and let wimpy king turin rule it, Chenier boasting of setting up kingdoms in Kosht, talk of giving Itau to FR... And then you wonder when a kingdom on the edge of the world with no allies acts bellicose and says tough things. If we didnt at least put on a tough face you'd !@#$ all over us. Who is Asylon going to call to help , Terran? What a waste of time that was. D'Hara? They couldnt even be bothered to help the Moot, the Zuma? Oh c'mon there is so many rules involved to get their help its painful. Asylon stands alone against Astrum, Iashular, Corsanctum and Morek... And you say you want small border wars and smaller conflicts... Astrum, come at us alone you cowards. We'll drop our alliances. You wouldnt dare drop yours because you cant stand on your own two feet.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 11:20:51 PM
I don't know what you're talking about. Asylon is the realm with the persecution complex here, that feels it has something to prove at Astrum's expense. Don't project your realm's insecurities on Astrum. When I was there, we could have cared less about Asylon except for the fact that you kept insulting us and talking a big game about how Astrum was in decline and Asylon was the big kid on the block now. Glaumring was obviously spoiling for a fight, just to prove that he was right about Asylon being a Great Power.

Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing that you're out there stoking conflict and making interesting things happen, I just wish you'd stop ascribing false motivations to Astrum on the forum. Astrum probably doesn't care about Asylon at all except insofar as you keep picking fights with them to prove that Asylon is better. Asylon is not and never has been a victim of anything other than its own insecurity since Caerwyn was destroyed. You're Welcome for that, by the way.


When did Asylon pick any fights with Astrum? We attacked Kabrinskia and Astrum dragged in its huge alliance, we attacked Terran and Astrum once again drags in its huge alliance. So what we are allied with Aurvandiil, like they can help us. Or Falkirk for that matter, to see Terran go down for their silly choices was good enough.

We get in trouble for allying with Aurvandiil because no one else will ally with us.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 05, 2013, 11:33:15 PM
Anyways I am not going to rant about this. Your OOG opinion of me and your IG opinion makes anything I say some point of contention, or some point to dispute. I understand none of you can do wrong and the state of Dwilight is totally Asylons fault. If Asylons actions are so extreme it isbecause unlike the cabal of alliances around us we have had to fend for ourselves since our kingdoms foundation. We have no allies. Its not what we wanted its how we ended up. Just a kingdom inbetween other kingdoms who want to expand. And we get blamed for fighting so hard to survive...
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: cenrae on April 05, 2013, 11:42:57 PM
Yep we are about to find out how far Kharis loyalty to Allison will go.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Tandaros on April 06, 2013, 12:13:47 AM
Nothing says springtime romance like a good ol excommunication.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on April 06, 2013, 01:22:13 AM
Astrum tried as hard as it could to ignore Asylon at every turn. We didn't care about Asylon. No one cared about Asylon. You could have stayed there in Echiur for all of time, and never sent a single letter, and no one would have cared. You never would have come into conflict with anyone. The only wars you ever got in were wars you stuck your nose in. And, like Geronus says, there's nothing wrong with that, and it's all good.

Stop blaming the results of your own paranoia on everyone else. You want war? Great. We all do. But at least here on the forum, you could do everyone the common courtesy of not accusing us all of lying to you and metagaming our asses off. At least Grimrog has the balls to take responsibility, and credit, for what he does, and not blame everyone else.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: dustole on April 06, 2013, 01:39:47 AM
Glaumring, whats your problem with Allison going to Farronite?
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Ironsides on April 06, 2013, 02:27:50 AM

I don't mean to interrupt the fussing, but according to Brainy Farf it's still only 22 YD. 23 begins in Summer, not Spring!!

...unless this post is speculation for next year? In which case I foresee Swordfell crowned Undisputed Empire of Toprak? Hm? All hail the UET? Maybe a little applause? Groveling? Tribute?

 8)
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Bjarnson on April 06, 2013, 02:38:01 AM
??? Didn't you ally Asylon with Aurvandil? I haven't been on Dwilight in a while, but IMO that's all the casus belli Astrum would ever need, to be honest.

Maybe it is all they need, but Astrum stated that they declared war on Asylon to aid their Ally Terran, who Asylon no longer are at war with. Nor do we hold any Terranese land. So I was kinda expecting them stop their war on Asylon after we signed peace treatys with Terran.
(No, I have not sent any ic letters to Sergio demanding peace, but we withdrew from Astrum land and they got lucky crushing our stragglers, cant send a letter now and look weak ;). Need to refit our army head to the border and look big and mean so we can start talking diplomacy :D )

Corsanctum on the other hand, they declared war on us because our alliance with Aurvandil. So I am expecting them to fight us until we declare ourselves enemies of Aurvandil or atleast withdraw our alliance with them.

At least Grimrog has the balls to take responsibility, and credit, for what he does, and not blame everyone else.

Thank you, I do take responsibility for the actions I have taken and events I have caused. Even though some of thoose actions isnt appreciated by everyone.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on April 06, 2013, 02:42:20 AM
Maybe it is all they need, but Astrum stated that they declared war on Asylon to aid their Ally Terran, who Asylon no longer are at war with. Nor do we hold any Terranese land. So I was kinda expecting them stop their war on Asylon after we signed peace treatys with Terran.
(No, I have not sent any ic letters to Sergio demanding peace, but we withdrew from Astrum land and they got lucky crushing our stragglers, cant send a letter now and look weak ;). Need to refit our army head to the border and look big and mean so we can start talking diplomacy :D )
Yeah, I' not really sure where to go with this war. Does it really need to be fought anymore? OOC it's fun, and Astrum needed a war. But IC, the reason for the war has mostly evaporated with the exception of that pesky Asylon/Aurvandil alliance.

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Thank you, I do take responsibility for the actions I have taken and events I have caused. Even though some of thoose actions isnt appreciated by everyone.
Well, I can't say that, IC, my character appreciates the actions. But OOC as a player, I appreciate the honesty that you approach things with, and don't try to tell me that I'm a lying, metagaming ass when I try to explain the position of our realm with complete OOC honesty.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 06, 2013, 03:58:20 AM
Glaumring, whats your problem with Allison going to Farronite?

There is nothing wrong with Allison going to the Farronites. I just wonder what reason. I believed that Allison and Glaumring could work together but I know ypu really want back in SA and I dont know to what means youll go to achieve that. Considering Asylons stature right now everyone and their dog is plotting against us.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 06, 2013, 04:02:48 AM
Astrum tried as hard as it could to ignore Asylon at every turn. We didn't care about Asylon. No one cared about Asylon. You could have stayed there in Echiur for all of time, and never sent a single letter, and no one would have cared. You never would have come into conflict with anyone. The only wars you ever got in were wars you stuck your nose in. And, like Geronus says, there's nothing wrong with that, and it's all good.

Stop blaming the results of your own paranoia on everyone else. You want war? Great. We all do. But at least here on the forum, you could do everyone the common courtesy of not accusing us all of lying to you and metagaming our asses off. At least Grimrog has the balls to take responsibility, and credit, for what he does, and not blame everyone else.

We have no problem fighting you ever so often. We have problems fighting your uber-alliance every time you fight us. We have NEVER attacked you but everytime we get involved in something you gotta come along. Its because you are allied to absolutely everyone and SA holds onto every mew theocracy for years and years and defends them every time they are attacked. Basically fight one SA fight all. And now attack the moot = fight all of SA , ally with Aurvandiil = fight all of SA . Dude if you stop coming to every time Asylon has a fight you'd never see us because no one in Asylon gives a care for Astrum, we just know you cant keep your nose out of others business.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on April 06, 2013, 04:07:45 AM
Thank you, I do take responsibility for the actions I have taken and events I have caused. Even though some of thoose actions isnt appreciated by everyone.

*grumbles about still not understanding why Asylon attacked Terran*
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: dustole on April 06, 2013, 04:25:09 AM
Allison isn't getting back in AS
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on April 06, 2013, 04:46:54 AM
We have no problem fighting you ever so often. We have problems fighting your uber-alliance every time you fight us. We have NEVER attacked you but everytime we get involved in something you gotta come along.
Stop attacking our friends, and we'll stop attacking you in response.

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Its because you are allied to absolutely everyone and SA holds onto every mew theocracy for years and years and defends them every time they are attacked.
We have friends. Oh noes! We're EVUL!
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Bjarnson on April 06, 2013, 11:14:21 AM
*grumbles about still not understanding why Asylon attacked Terran*

Ah yes, I take responsibility, but that dosent mean I tell everyone everything. =)
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Sypher on April 06, 2013, 12:20:11 PM
I don't mean to interrupt the fussing, but according to Brainy Farf it's still only 22 YD. 23 begins in Summer, not Spring!!

...unless this post is speculation for next year? In which case I foresee Swordfell crowned Undisputed Empire of Toprak? Hm? All hail the UET? Maybe a little applause? Groveling? Tribute?

 8)

The beginning of the year is summer? eh, oh well close enough.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on April 06, 2013, 01:10:45 PM
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for the sake of fun maybe it would be good to fight with more than huge alliances and 200 nobles at your beck and call... It might do wonders to make the game more fun.
...says the guy that just surprise-backstabbed Terran so their ally, who totally didn't need help, could roflstomp Terran's capital.

You guys are horrible at picking your wars. The result and consequences of your actions were ludicrously easy to predict. It's like you *wanted* it to happen, but act all surprised when it did. Take some lessons from Terran about how to declare war and *not* draw in all of your enemy's allies.

Anyway... the coming year will definitely be interesting.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Perth on April 06, 2013, 01:51:25 PM
The beginning of the year is summer? eh, oh well close enough.

Why does the new year start in summer?
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on April 06, 2013, 02:25:21 PM
The first season of Dwilight was Summer. It makes a sort of RP sense to count years from the first day of summer. Interestingly enough, SA starts all their 2-year Consul and Regent tersm from the first day of Spring, because that's the aproximate time when that system was implemented.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: ^ban^ on April 06, 2013, 04:31:17 PM
why are the Lurias one huge kingdom? Because if they stay small and play like they used to SA will destroy them.

I can't really speak to the rest of your post, but Luria is large because all the backstabbers have finally killed the rest of the backstabbers. It took years.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Feylonis on April 06, 2013, 04:35:35 PM
That leaves Asylon, we'd rather die than tow the line.

And yet...you allied with Aurvandil. How convenient!
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Anaris on April 06, 2013, 04:45:38 PM
I'm not in SA.

The main reason I'm not arguing with you is because I don't bother arguing with people who just keep changing their claims every time someone refutes them.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 06, 2013, 04:49:40 PM
I'm not in SA.

The main reason I'm not arguing with you is because I don't bother arguing with people who just keep changing their claims every time someone refutes them.

This sucks.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on April 06, 2013, 06:10:38 PM
Ah yes, I take responsibility, but that dosent mean I tell everyone everything. =)

Or anyone anything.

Then you don't even try to help a bro out after we surrender. Shame.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Bjarnson on April 06, 2013, 06:14:55 PM
Or anyone anything.

Then you don't even try to help a bro out after we surrender. Shame.

Oh, I have told several many things, and I have helpd a bro out, in Phantaria...
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Chenier on April 06, 2013, 06:23:46 PM
Hireshmont isnt as bad as Chenier, you are just a victim of Cheniers influence.


I dont know how standing up for my kingdom against SA hegemony , and being left out of the moot so we had to fend for ourselves equals crass opportunistic... I call it surviving against the odds , building a strong kingdom in a desert , surrounded by schemeing kingdoms that only want our lands.

I find this amusing, given how lazy I've been for quite a while, watching Hireshmont exhaust himself with all of his efforts.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Chenier on April 06, 2013, 06:27:17 PM
How can anyone on Dwilight in its current state not draw in everyone elses allies? Like seriously, this is the state of Dwilight because of the huge SA power bloc. Why is the Moot an entity? Because it used to fear SA coming to kill it, so they all mass converted to save their asses. Why is Aurvandiil so huge? Because its formed of players from kingdoms SA destroyed and multis who are made to fight against the huge SA alliances, why are the Lurias one huge kingdom? Because if they stay small and play like they used to SA will destroy them. Swordfell stays meek and boring below Morek because a hige SA alliance will kill them if they do anything different. Libero rots because a huge SA alliance will come to kill them if they even breath. Nisuler rots because no one wants to live in such a boring useless kingdom surrounded by Astrum, its Libero part II... That leaves Asylon, we'd rather die than tow the line.

SA was the least of the 'moot's concerns.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: vonGenf on April 06, 2013, 07:02:02 PM
Why is the Moot an entity? Because it used to fear SA coming to kill it, so they all mass converted to save their asses.

SA considered Terran to be part of SA long before Terran even knew it. SA has always been friendly to the moot realms. They didn't need to save their asses.

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Why is Aurvandiil so huge? Because its formed of players from kingdoms SA destroyed and multis who are made to fight against the huge SA alliances,

That must be why it fought Madina and Barca, then?

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why are the Lurias one huge kingdom? Because if they stay small and play like they used to SA will destroy them.

Yeah, right. SA loves to destroy realms filled with leading Astroists.

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Swordfell stays meek and boring below Morek because a hige SA alliance will kill them if they do anything different.

Swordfell does things differently, haven't you noticed? The huge SA alliance seems to accept it.

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Libero rots because a huge SA alliance will come to kill them if they even breath.

Did you know that the biggest SA temple is in Springdale? Libero has pretty much been a part of every huge SA alliances there ever was.

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Nisuler rots because no one wants to live in such a boring useless kingdom surrounded by Astrum, its Libero part II...

Nice way to make friends with your neighbours.....

Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on April 06, 2013, 07:45:08 PM
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How can anyone on Dwilight in its current state not draw in everyone elses allies?
If you had been paying attention, you would have noticed that Terran did it. And they did a damn good job of it. Maybe you could walk hat in hand to Vellos and ask him, politely, how he did it, instead of just insulting him at every opportunity.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Anaris on April 06, 2013, 08:49:17 PM
The thing I noticed most on this forum is how quick you all are to take fake umbrage or insult to absolutely everything I say, like its just all so shocking and insulting.

Well, I can't speak for everyone, but when I take umbrage, it's never fake. Or if it is, it should be pretty obvious from the sarcastic tone and/or smilies.

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I speak truths and if speaking the truth hurts maybe the pinch of reality is too much for most of you.

Half the time, what you say doesn't qualify as truth, but can't even be called lies because it's too ridiculous. It just doesn't have any connection with reality.

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Dwilight Social interaction between humans is a highschool popularity contest.

T, FTFY
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on April 06, 2013, 09:14:27 PM
I am done on this forum...
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on April 06, 2013, 09:20:32 PM
If you had been paying attention, you would have noticed that Terran did it. And they did a damn good job of it. Maybe you could walk hat in hand to Vellos and ask him, politely, how he did it, instead of just insulting him at every opportunity.

If anybody would like to make any job offers to Hireshmont, he's accepting them!
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Stabbity on April 08, 2013, 12:38:46 AM
There are ways to survive and thrive on Dwilight. One of them is to not get a repuatation for being an erratic maniac who spits in the eye of everyone with any kind of influence and a persecution complex. If you go about denouncing two thirds of the continent, you deserve what you get. When you ally with the realm that EVERYONE ELSE HATES AND WANTS TO DESTROY there should be no question when EVERYONE comes down on you for taking sides. It would be like if Mussolini had survived WWII and found himself wondering why nobody likes him for allying with Hitler.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Shizzle on April 08, 2013, 12:42:15 PM
It would be like if Mussolini had survived WWII and found himself wondering why nobody likes him for allying with Hitler.

Rofl. +1 for over the top
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Arundel on April 08, 2013, 10:24:18 PM
If anybody would like to make any job offers to Hireshmont, he's accepting them!

Come to Luria, we have cookies! Yeah.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Anaris on April 08, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
Alanna wouldn't object to Hireshmont showing up.

It's not impossible she should—but she wouldn't. She'd see it as an opportunity—for interesting conversations, if nothing else.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on April 08, 2013, 11:35:08 PM
Alanna wouldn't object to Hireshmont showing up.

It's not impossible she should—but she wouldn't. She'd see it as an opportunity—for interesting conversations, if nothing else.

So many good options these days.

I wish I could have four Hireshmonts for Dwilight. Honestly, the fall of Terran is opening up all kinds of exciting new possibilities.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Ironsides on April 26, 2013, 08:31:50 PM

NOW it's 23 YD.

Happy New Year Dwilight!

 ;D
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Sypher on May 03, 2013, 04:13:44 AM
Since the start of year 23 here are the events that have happened so far that I know of:

1. Fissoa assaulted the city of Madina but was repelled by Falkirk.
2. Sevastian Guile changed the allegiance of Sol (balance's retreat & North divides) to Luria Nova before his death from lung failure.

Any that have happened elsewhere?
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on May 03, 2013, 04:20:33 AM
Asylon ended their war with Niselur, Corsanctum, and Morek.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Bjarnson on May 03, 2013, 05:11:11 PM
Asylon ended their war with Niselur, Corsanctum, and Morek.

Our war? I thought it was your war on us... but who cares about such details? ;).

BUT, we got peace with Niselur, Astrum and Morek. Corsanctum are still at war with us.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Feylonis on May 03, 2013, 05:24:10 PM
Asylon gave casus bell it Astrum after it (Asylon) declared war against Terran. Astrum only responded as an ally, not an aggressor.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Kain on May 03, 2013, 06:47:20 PM
2. Sevastian Guile changed the allegiance of Sol (balance's retreat & North divides) to Luria Nova before his death from lung failure.

There is a saying in swedish which goes "God punishes some right away". Sevastian changed his duchy and right away he got lung cancer and died. The action was not endorsed by God ;D
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Bjarnson on May 03, 2013, 07:05:32 PM
Asylon gave casus bell it Astrum after it (Asylon) declared war against Terran. Astrum only responded as an ally, not an aggressor.

True.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: cenrae on May 07, 2013, 09:19:53 PM
And now the Farronite Republic battles Saffalore, severely wounding there queen.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on May 07, 2013, 10:41:22 PM
And now the Farronite Republic battles Saffalore, severely wounding there queen.

Ya know, if you'd included us in the plan, we coulda helped.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Gustav Kuriga on May 07, 2013, 11:53:04 PM
Ya know, if you'd included us in the plan, we coulda helped.

Cannon Fodder is always useful. <.<

Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on May 08, 2013, 02:17:07 AM
Cannon Fodder is always useful. <.<

We're happy to be cannon fodder if it means the realm survives.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Chenier on May 08, 2013, 02:20:13 AM
Not too late to march on! ;)
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: dustole on May 08, 2013, 02:21:13 AM
IM still trying to figure out what the Farronite's hope to achieve with this.

Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Indirik on May 08, 2013, 02:24:52 AM
Chaos. Death. Fun. Land. !!Fun!!
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on May 08, 2013, 02:25:24 AM
IM still trying to figure out what the Farronite's hope to achieve with this.

Not entirely sure about that myself actually.

But we're cool with our neighbors fighting each other. We'll even hop on board!
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Tandaros on May 08, 2013, 02:51:05 AM
Not entirely sure about that myself actually.

But we're cool with our neighbors fighting each other. We'll even hop on board!

To bring back the 6 year olds' diplomacy analogies....

This seems like the sickly nerd watching a little kid get wailed on in the schoolyard and saying, "I don't know what you're doing or why, but can I help?"
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Chenier on May 08, 2013, 03:11:02 AM
SQUAWTERZ
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Perth on May 08, 2013, 05:50:36 AM
Honestly, anybody housing Erasmus LaPointe in that part of the world should expect attack at some point.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Vellos on May 08, 2013, 07:15:52 AM
Honestly, anybody housing Erasmus LaPointe in that part of the world should expect attack at some point.

Seriously: shouldn't D'Hara be picking a fight over there?
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Perth on May 08, 2013, 07:30:55 AM
Seriously: shouldn't D'Hara be picking a fight over there?

I would count on it...
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Shizzle on May 08, 2013, 10:01:08 AM
In other news, tonight Alice of Luria Nova and Skyndarbau of Fissoa battle to the death.

Have there been royal trials by combat before?
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Wolfsong on May 08, 2013, 11:04:10 AM
I'm not sure about on Dwilight, though I know it's happened elsewhere on BM (in the Colonies in particular.)

Regardless, the outcome should be posted to the 'post on Facebook' thread.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Shizzle on May 08, 2013, 10:54:36 PM
Skyndarbau is critically wounded, but still alive. I can only hope Alice isn't walking either, or he managed to lose from a blind girl. But alas I have no information until he heals.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Arundel on May 09, 2013, 02:28:46 AM
She emerged victorious without a scratch.
Title: Re: Year 23
Post by: Shizzle on May 09, 2013, 08:34:39 AM
She emerged victorious without a scratch.

Haha. Well, not unexpectedly. Perhaps Skyndarbau needs a handicap as well, to save face :P