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Title: auto da fe
Post by: fodder on May 30, 2011, 07:16:24 AM
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With enough popular support, you can invite the local population to drive away nobles who do not believe in the majority faith. You can drive out local knights (turning them into imperial knights and causing the region to have one less knight) or you can even try the local lord.

You can drive them out even if they are not here right now, because what you in fact do is casting out their households and burning down their estate. Note that any military controlled by nobles will protect their peers, and make it very difficult for you to succeed. Militia, on the other hand, consists mostly of believers in your faith at this point, and will most likely stand down.

This process will always use up all your hours, success or failure, and requires at least 6 hours.

so local knights -> imperial knights.

imperial knights, as in listed under ruler under realm hierarchy? or one of them unpledged, dark out version in the same region/capital? what % oath and who pays them?

similarly lords. they get turned into imperial knights too?
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: Chenier on May 30, 2011, 07:48:37 AM
They will become knights tied to the region with 0% oath (and no estates), I believe. That's what imperial knights are, nowadays, I think.
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: Jens Namtrah on May 30, 2011, 11:59:55 AM
do you know how big a % you need to get the option?
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: Velax on May 30, 2011, 02:48:54 PM
Huh. I had no idea something like this even existed.
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on May 30, 2011, 05:55:11 PM
It got implemented about 2.5 years ago. You need a majority faith, but I forgot the exact percentage minimum. You also need at least a...large temple, I think?
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: egamma on May 31, 2011, 01:13:11 AM
It got implemented about 2.5 years ago. You need a majority faith, but I forgot the exact percentage minimum. You also need at least a...large temple, I think?

You need a size 3, small, temple, if memory serves.
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: Chenier on June 01, 2011, 02:08:53 AM
It got implemented about 2.5 years ago. You need a majority faith, but I forgot the exact percentage minimum. You also need at least a...large temple, I think?

The button was there 2.5 years ago, but I'd swear that the mechanic actually going into effect is not that old! That or time really did fly by... Hard to say.

You need 70% follower and a level 3 temple, I believe. The 70% marker might be variable, I think I've seen it available at lower percentages in some cases.
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: Anaris on June 01, 2011, 02:19:03 AM
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Changeset 4122

Timestamp:
08/17/09 14:59:35 (22 months ago)
Author:
Timothy
Message:
Implement Auto da fe, thus satisfying mantis:5042 (http://bugs.battlemaster.org/view.php?id=5042)

So, it was implemented just under 2 years ago.
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: Jens Namtrah on June 01, 2011, 05:25:16 AM
and a level 3 temple, I believe

that kind of cuts down on its usefulness, IMO. A level 2 is effective up to 4,000 followers, so not so many places even have a temple that big.

Any special reason that level was chosen?
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on June 01, 2011, 11:58:32 AM
Same reason level 3 is required to become a priest? It used to be level 4 for priest change.
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: LilWolf on June 01, 2011, 03:55:16 PM
I'm fairly certain temple size has nothing to do with whether you can use the option. Being an elder of the faith how ever does..
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: fodder on June 01, 2011, 08:44:20 PM
lvl 4? don't new temples (of new religion) start at 3?

i know i can auto da fe in my priest/lord's region which happens to have a lvl 3 temple (haha...).. being the only priest/elder in the whole dead religion. not sure about the other regions.. will check the neighbouring region (with a lvl 2 temple) at some point.
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on June 01, 2011, 09:27:33 PM
I believe in those cases the game helps you out by allowing you to get priests from the start, not forcing you to work as the sole priest until you can upgrade the temple to level 4. For all other temples, they start at level 1, assuming the level 4 thing is true.
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: Anaris on June 01, 2011, 09:35:14 PM
I believe in those cases the game helps you out by allowing you to get priests from the start, not forcing you to work as the sole priest until you can upgrade the temple to level 4. For all other temples, they start at level 1, assuming the level 4 thing is true.

It's not.

Priests have always required a level 3 (small) temple.
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on June 01, 2011, 10:10:21 PM
Hm, this is strange then, because I could almost swear that Garret needed a medium temple to switch to priest. But since I didn't screenshot it, unfortunately I can't prove anything, just like the estate sizes of 3/5/7 that I seem to think existed before 5/7/8.
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: Jens Namtrah on June 02, 2011, 01:26:35 AM
I'm fairly certain temple size has nothing to do with whether you can use the option. Being an elder of the faith how ever does..

I didn't click, so can't confirm, but I first saw the option when passing through my own realm's regions as a normal priest. so, i don't think being an elder is a requirement.

Becoming a priest requires a level 3 temple, I can confirm from having changed recently.
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: fodder on June 02, 2011, 08:17:09 AM
just boated into a region with a lvl 2 temple but higher % than the other one where i can do it, with 4-8 hours left. no auto da fe link and it's not listed in the "can't do"

um... perhaps it should be listed in the can't do with explanation of why not? that is... outside of regions with lvl 3+ temples

because once back in a region with lvl 3 temple, i can see it listed in the "can't do" list when there's not enough time.
Title: Re: auto da fe
Post by: Chenier on June 04, 2011, 12:01:10 AM
I'm fairly certain temple size has nothing to do with whether you can use the option. Being an elder of the faith how ever does..

You are thinking of "Claim region", I believe.