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BattleMaster => Locals => Dwilight => Topic started by: Brant on May 19, 2012, 10:16:37 PM

Title: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Brant on May 19, 2012, 10:16:37 PM
I guess we need an unbiased thread dedicated to our little war in the north east,  all the other wars have threads.


Good battle in Nifel, the first ever use of the region's walls (excepting Monsters).  I think had the whole of the Morek and Libero army made it to battle, it would have been a very close thing.  Now start the RPing!


Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Vellos on May 19, 2012, 10:38:20 PM
Wasn't this the thread for that:
http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,2209.0.html
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Darksun on May 20, 2012, 01:12:31 AM
We need more threads. The Zuma have at least a dozen, SMA has another half dozen, SA a few more and then there's the individual player threads...

Basically we need a little flag that says look at us! We have a war!
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Brant on May 20, 2012, 01:22:23 AM
Why not?  Normal Topic, Hott Topic, Very Hot Topic, locked Topic, Sticky Topic and Polls all have their own symbols.   How about crossed sabres for war discussion threads? :D
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Vonyx on May 20, 2012, 09:58:02 PM
Interesting times I must say!

At least for me as a new player.
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Darksun on May 31, 2012, 09:01:10 PM
And now we all lose. :(

Maybe we can convince Astrum to ban the Duke or force a secession!
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Brant on May 31, 2012, 09:18:05 PM
Can't seceded with a stronghold :(
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Indirik on May 31, 2012, 09:26:09 PM
Maybe we can convince Astrum to ban the Duke
Why would we want to do that? We get a new duchy! It's Win for us. :D
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Darksun on May 31, 2012, 09:44:53 PM
Why would we want to do that? We get a new duchy! It's Win for us. :D

Completely agreeable IC. OOC it is just going to stagnate the north again :(
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Brant on May 31, 2012, 09:47:10 PM
Maybe some of Morek's duchies with Secede :P
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Darksun on May 31, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
They've done that lots of times historically. Here's to hoping.
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Indirik on May 31, 2012, 10:18:08 PM
Completely agreeable IC. OOC it is just going to stagnate the north again :(
Given that it's a stronghold, we *can't* get rid of the duchy any way other than having it swap back to Summerdale. It can't secede, even if we banned every noble in the duchy.

And, really, we wouldn't want that anyway. We now have a lot more nobles to join the fight against Asylon.  ;D Those nobles still get to fight a war, it's just a different war.
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Darksun on May 31, 2012, 10:28:37 PM
Given that it's a stronghold, we *can't* get rid of the duchy any way other than having it swap back to Summerdale. It can't secede, even if we banned every noble in the duchy.

Which is silly in its own right. Oh well.
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: JPierreD on May 31, 2012, 10:29:46 PM
Completely agreeable IC. OOC it is just going to stagnate the north again :(

Well, Morek's intervention kinda ensured that, didn't it?
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Darksun on May 31, 2012, 10:34:10 PM
Well, Morek's intervention kinda ensured that, didn't it?

And they were defeated in Nifel. I can only imagine that they would be defeated again and again before they could take the townsland and the city. This could have dragged on for a long time, bloody battles and glory for everyone. Instead it's just going to whimper out. Maybe it still will - maybe it will turn into a showdown between Morek, Libero and Astrum. One can still hope.
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Indirik on May 31, 2012, 10:40:54 PM
Personally, I don't think that Morek and Astrum will fight over it. Not unless Morek, for some reason, *really* wants the Valkyrja duchy. Which just doesn't make any sense. Morek never wanted to kill Summerdale. They just wanted a new ruler there.
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Arrakis on May 31, 2012, 10:45:56 PM
Morek wanted to fight anyone I think. LE or Summerdale, it didn't matter. Summerdale, unfortunately for them, threw the first rock and got squashed. After achieving this I would be really surprised to see Summerdale survive in any form. Either Morek or LE will snatch Nifelheim while Valkyra remains within Astrum.
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: BardicNerd on May 31, 2012, 10:47:06 PM
Well, Morek's intervention kinda ensured that, didn't it?
Morek's intervention pretty much sealed a win for us, but it didn't by any stretch make things easy or short . . . while the eventual outcome wasn't in doubt once they joined, it still ensured several months of war.

Arguments could be made that their entrance increased the fun potential, even if it made the end result a forgone conclusion (really, without them, I think it would have mostly devolved into a staring match within a month or two).
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Andira on May 31, 2012, 10:55:28 PM
Summerdale breaking from inside didn't exactly increase the fun potential either, at least not for me. Yeah, there can be well-played rebellions that would actually be interesting and fun for everyone involved, but what happened in Summerdale just... wasn't.

And OOCly, I didn't even really mind losing battles. That can be fun to RP.
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: BardicNerd on May 31, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
I think the breaking from the inside is what was being referred to when Darksun said we all lose.  IC, I'm happy, mostly.  OOC, it's very unfortunate.

Both IC and OOC I'm not entirely sure what happened, though we have gotten some limited reports.
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Andira on May 31, 2012, 11:16:23 PM
Oh, I thought Darksun simply meant the fact that the war in the north will be over, bringing stagnation to the northern regions again, even if fighting is going on in the south. Or maybe the fact that by having Summerdale join Astrum, neither Morek/Libero could actually win the war, nor could Summerdale. Your interpretation could be right, too, of course, only Darksun himself could tell for sure. Though since he's part of Libero Empire, not of Summerdale, I'm not sure how much he knows about internal Summerdale stuff.
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Darksun on May 31, 2012, 11:20:48 PM
Andria - we've been passed  some reports on what was going on internally, a bit too late to take action of course. Could have turned out very Game of Throne-sy by using some of those rebellious Knights and Lords to make a claim on Nifelheim. Also would have thrown a serious wrench into some other longer term plans.

However, now we finally get to see what a border between Morek and Astrum looks like... ZZZzzzzz.
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Jhaelen Irsei on May 31, 2012, 11:31:03 PM
I don't understand why you complain about boredom, I found Dwilight funny sometimes even more in peace times, there are lots of things to do in several communication channels....if you declare war  out of boredom it can be expected that the RP basis could lack and the outcome not so great

anyway the war is not ended yet and reviving the North East is up to our imagination

(the title of this topic says all....personally it's more fun to imagine a plot, set an objective then move war..if you declare war because of boredom it's not so funny to fight against, no background story, no flavor)
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Andira on May 31, 2012, 11:57:29 PM
Which communication channels would that be? Just ones related to Sanguis Astroism? Really, I had no clue at all what to do with my character before this war started. There were barely any letters sent inside Summerdale at all before the war, unless some monsters spawned. We had only a handful of characters, too. And my Summerdale character was my only character for the longest time, too, and apart from the whole Thulsoma/Averoth thing, this war was the first war that I have been part of in BM.

And I never complained about the RP in this war, I actually enjoyed it, though it sounds as if you didn't. I never complained about Summerdale having bad chances either, we were aware of that from the beginning. It seems people just misunderstand me all the time. :( All that I complained about was the way Summerdale broke apart from inside in the end, which had nothing at all to do with our enemies.
Title: Re: The war against the lack of wars, may we all win.
Post by: Darksun on June 01, 2012, 12:03:15 AM
Jhaelen - I hope so! I'm still pushing for some good battles with Charlotte's loyalists in Nifelheim.