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Dwilight / Re: Pre-invasion Dwilight
« on: January 30, 2015, 04:46:05 PM »
I'm not sure any realm on the Western half really had "traditional borders." That case could maybe be made for Astrum and the Terran Republic, but most of the other realms were colonies and in a constant state of colonization, war and expansion.
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Dwilight / Re: Plans you have for if the war ends...
« on: January 23, 2015, 09:53:01 PM »
So the League can't win the war because of the huge density of nobles on Luria, but the war is one of the main reasons keeping those nobles bunched up together and not half a continent away. Hmmm
Also, when those realms fought against the monster invasion, at least in Asylon, it was in heavily bottled up formations, like the entirety of the realm in one location. Asylon itself was about the size Luria is now. Even then the monster horde was pretty unstoppable. With unlimited resources you might be able to support a city and maybe a townsland or two which would always need to be filled with nobles, but they would forever be reliant on a continuous flow of outside help and they could never enter into war with other player realms. It would take a very specific kind of person to want to play in a realm like that and it is a bit unfair to assume most of the refugees would find such a situation amenable. This recolonizing the West as simple solution seems like an extremely dense idea for those that had to give up their lands during the closing of the West by the devs. The devs intentionally made those lands inhospitable for realms. If it would be possible, most of us would still be there. It isn't as if we didn't try.
Also, when those realms fought against the monster invasion, at least in Asylon, it was in heavily bottled up formations, like the entirety of the realm in one location. Asylon itself was about the size Luria is now. Even then the monster horde was pretty unstoppable. With unlimited resources you might be able to support a city and maybe a townsland or two which would always need to be filled with nobles, but they would forever be reliant on a continuous flow of outside help and they could never enter into war with other player realms. It would take a very specific kind of person to want to play in a realm like that and it is a bit unfair to assume most of the refugees would find such a situation amenable. This recolonizing the West as simple solution seems like an extremely dense idea for those that had to give up their lands during the closing of the West by the devs. The devs intentionally made those lands inhospitable for realms. If it would be possible, most of us would still be there. It isn't as if we didn't try.
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Dwilight / Re: Plans you have for if the war ends...
« on: January 23, 2015, 06:25:26 PM »It's been mentionned a few times that the exiles could be settled back on the Western continent.
With active support of the other realms, there's a chance they could make it. They don't need to carve out anyone to get a new home.
So Asylon, Niselur, Barca and Astrum (who were all also some of the largest militaries on the continent) couldn't even slow the monster hordes, but a small colony of exiles is somehow going to survive? Unless the hordes have been turned down, there is no chance for any realm to survive.
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Dwilight / Re: Plans you have for if the war ends...
« on: January 23, 2015, 06:22:37 PM »See, "they want to carve a realm out of their enemies" is a completely different story than "they want to leave".
Not really. Where are they supposed to go? Because of this war, everyone is currently our enemies.
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Dwilight / Re: Plans you have for if the war ends...
« on: January 23, 2015, 05:59:13 PM »So... leave. It's not like anyone is forcing them to stay.
This war against every other realm is forcing them to stay. There has to be somewhere for them to go to. It is much more complicated than just "leaving", as we learned with the destruction of all realms but Astrum from the west during the western blight. It's not like old Dwilight where people could just pack up and form a new colony in rogue lands if they wanted.
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Dwilight / Re: Plans you have for if the war ends...
« on: January 23, 2015, 04:54:43 PM »
If you want Dwilight to remain fun, then stop trying to become an unbeatable force.
How is this not what the League is currently doing? Luria has so many nobles because it was the only place most of those coming from Asylon and Niselur culturally fit in. Most refugees are trying to leave. As soon as this war ends Luria's population will drop and the island will have some more variable realms that perhaps aren't aligned with D'Hara or Morek (the main sticking point to why there are so many refugees in Luria) and provide some more diverse politics.
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Dwilight / Re: Plans you have for if the war ends...
« on: January 23, 2015, 01:49:03 AM »Hard to do with a war at hand. Also pointless when a single noble is all it takes to scout a region.
End the war then. Luria is already moving on (at least from the Southern League).
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Dwilight / Re: How to help Dwilight.
« on: January 09, 2015, 01:14:17 AM »Then that's something we (the exiles) should take steps to correct.
Being mostly anti-SA it's difficult to find some sort of medium for the exiles to reach an international audience, especially as Luria is pretty diplomatically isolated.
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Dwilight / Re: Luria Nova vs the rest (bis)
« on: December 04, 2014, 02:05:27 AM »Right, because it would have been so easy for Barca to fund a large enough army to march north through Luria and Swordfell into Morek when Luria could easily send a larger army to stop us or just invade Aveston while we are gone (of course I am sure if we asked nicely Luria would agree to help, because they have proven to be the friendliest and most trustful nation ever). Not too mention how easy it would be to find an IC reason for Barca to break its alliance with Morek and march far away from its two closest allies. Great plan, can't believe it never occurred to anyone before now.
You can travel by sea. Best to colonize Morek now before you are competing with the multiple other colonies trying to get up there.
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BM General Discussion / Re: Little awkward adventure plan.
« on: November 21, 2014, 11:39:21 PM »
A company of adventurers in Western Dwilight?
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Dwilight / Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« on: November 21, 2014, 11:31:25 PM »I agree Indirik. Graeth, please stop involving yourself in this discussion unless you are going to be civil and stick to an argument that has some basis in logic, rather than emotional demagoguery. You ultimately undermine any argument I make through guilt by association.
Go troll somewhere else. I've been completely civil. What points did I make that weren't true? A large chunk of the players left after the wipe. From my own experience many of these players were some of the most active on the island and made the game better for everyone. Regardless, many of these were people whom I've had relations with for years while carving out a fun realm on the island. The losses aren't just numerical, huge sections of the game which were integral to the community were alienated and ultimately left. Many of these losses are disproportional based on their overall influence in the game.
I've moved on, and I'm enjoying my character now, but the spark that was there before isn't there now for me. I didn't resurrect this thread. My post was in response to Scarborn who said those that critize the wipe are arrogant and that overall it has only helped the island. I disagree.
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Dwilight / Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« on: November 21, 2014, 11:25:43 PM »Please stop perpetuating this bull!@#$. The decisions made by the dev team during the monster invasion on Dwilight, and the freeze events on other islands, had absolutely nothing to do with realms, or the preferences of the dev team. (FWIW - The freeze/monster events wiped out my three favorite realms, two of which I had played in for 5 and 7 years.)
It's one thing to claim that a decision didn't work out the way it was intended. There's no one on the team that can't take criticism, so long as it is honest and well-intentioned. But to make claims that the dev team made such a monumental decision based on what realms were their favorites... You can just keep that slanderous bull!@#$ to yourself. Those types of unfounded, baseless allegations are damaging to the game and the community atmosphere.
When it comes down to it, some realms were chosen to survive and some weren't. There was a choice. Unless the decision was completely arbitrary, which would seem odd for such a monumental decision, then there was some reasoning behind which realms would continue and which wouldn't. Whoever made the choice obviously liked something in those realms who stayed around more than they did in the ones that got wiped. I don't think it's unfair to point this out. I'm not crying about devs picking favorites based on their characters. No doubt if it went the other way then people from the Eastern realms would be complaining now instead. It's just the nature of the event. I merely alluded to the choice, which had little to do with my overall post anyways.
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Dwilight / Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« on: November 21, 2014, 10:08:54 PM »Lastly, I can not believe the level of arrogance and willful ignorance that all this complaining displays. Sure, we can sit here and say that we would have done this and that and it would have been so much better. We can disdainfully point out how the devs should have thought of this and that. I sincerely doubt, however, that any of those complaining could have done any better.
It is easy to sit here now, look back at what happened and say, well the devs clearly should have... How arrogant is it to assume that any of us would have easily divined all possible problems and would have deftly mitigated every one of them? How ignorant must we be to pretend that our present insight is not a result of our possessing knowledge is what already happed and instead act as if these things were obvious from the beginning?
The most dense and active realms were killed off in favor of dead realms that no one wanted to play in because they were just gold farms for families. We've lost a ton of good players on the island. People I've played with for years, who made the game what it was for me, left because everything we spent the last 3 or more years making was just arbitrarily wiped. Because of the massive drop in numbers, I assume most other Western realms experienced similar situations. Even those that have stuck around have done so in an incredibly diminished capacity. It's hard to be motivated when everything you've committed to for years was wiped, not because of in game reasons or through in game mechanics, but because someone in control decided they liked another realm better. My experience on Dwilight has been that it is nothing but a shell of its former self since the wipe. The wipe drove off large numbers of players, many of them very good players who enhanced the game for everyone else. Sorry if that is being too arrogant for you, but people have a right to be peeved.
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Dwilight / Re: Is Morek dying?
« on: September 12, 2014, 04:29:32 PM »Not to turn this into a "my realm is better than yours" debate, but D'Hara has won plenty of battles, thank you. While it used to be that every battle between D'Hara and Luria would result in a loss for us, despite having more men, the opposite seems true these days. Maybe our forces withdraw when a larger Lurian army arrives, but that's just normal... In the last 27 battles between D'Hara and Luria, D'Hara won 24 of them. D'Hara has also successfully taken over regions, and looted many others. To suggest that it can't achieve anything is completely unfounded.
Hahaha. I wasn't counting battles against peasants and bovines.